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Comment on Instance Protectionism in the Threadiverse happens because of the Prisoner’s Dilemma (protecting one's own instance is currently more sensible than increasing overall discussion quality)

ithas@artemis.camp ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Mastodon solved this with an Explore-Feed, which consolidates the Local- and All-Feed

Can you please explain what that means for non-mastodon users. As far as I know about lemmy, which granted isn't much, local posts are not hidden from all, meaning it already is a consolidated local and all feed.

Personally, I didn't agree with your previous post and I don't agree with this. I believe instance owners can run their instance however they wish, they're the ones paying and maintaining it. If it's not suited to your tastes, there are other places to look at. If an instance wants to federate with no one or hide all remote posts or anything, that is there choice to run the software that way. People aren't locked in jail cells making decisions with no information of the outside world. Nor are the defaults they set locked either, I just bookmark "hot" and "sub" and go to those every time, regardless of what the homepage has set.

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blue_berry@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Its not like I want to force them. It’s just criticism. If they are part of a federated network, they also get some merits out of it (user engagement) and so they should give something back in return. This will become more pressing if Threads joins the Fediverse. It could flood the fediverse with its own posts while putting the posts of their network front and center in their UI eventually draining the Fediverse off its energy (which of course we could prevent by defederating in the worst case …)

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- ithas@artemis.camp ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I do think your heart is in the right place trying to find and discuss engagement issues in the threadiverse. That's obviously been a common complaint people have posted about and I can see you believe strongly about this.
  
  I think I just disagree with the issue at hand, or at least that there is a single one and that this solves it. To give an anecdotal example: I make a post around every day on kbin.social that gets 0 likes, 0 dislikes, and 0 comments, in other words no engagement. You might say this is due to it being difficult to find! Well, it actually is! So much so because it doesn't even federate out to lemmy.world, lemm.ee, fedia.io, etc. I check remote instances and my posts never federate anywhere. If you look at my profile from your instance, lemmy.world, it would seem I barely have any posts, but on my home one I have quite a few.
  
  This is just one example of course, but from my perspective, the major issues we have right now are technical ones, and I'd like to see those fixed before trying to focus on social ones.
  
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  - blue_berry@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    I check remote instances and my posts never federate anywhere. If you look at my profile from your instance, lemmy.world, it would seem I barely have any posts, but on my home one I have quite a few.
    
    Mmh, true, I shows only two posts for me. Thats weird … something similar happened to me with Mastodon, posts never reaching other instances or only very late …
    
    This is just one example of course, but from my perspective, the major issues we have right now are technical ones, and I’d like to see those fixed before trying to focus on social ones.
    
    Yeah, thats definitly so. But I think these technical ones are mostly known and I don’t feel like I can contribute much to them … so I think about the social ones.
    
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