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AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

‘football’ as a name has been around for centuries with no confusion, until American exceptionalism led to them inventing their own version of the game. The only confusion today is coming from the US. Your proposed change however, is the equivalent of this:

imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

It would not do anything except make the situation even more complicated.

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CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
How certain are you about that? Looks to me like the term football is about 150 years old, and when it was introduced, gridiron and soccer were still the same sport: books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=football&ye…

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- AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_(word)
  
  It’s been around for almost a millennia.
  
  And I’m not proposing a new standard, I’m continuing use of a standard introduced by working class Brits in the early 20th century, so that xkcd really doesn’t apply at all.
  
  It means something specific TODAY. You’re suggesting to have it mean something new and different. It doesn’t matter if that meaning was used a century ago, that’s not what the comic is referencing.
  
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  - CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    If football refers to a single, specific, concrete sport, why do we use it to refer to Canadian rules football AND Gaelic rules football AND American football AND association football?
    
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    AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    we use it to refer to Canadian rules football AND Gaelic rules football AND American football
    
    ‘we’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, considering that’s like 5% of the world population that would refer to it that way.
    
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