Comment on Lauren Southern accuses Tommy Robinson of lying to protect alleged 'rapist' Andrew Tate
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
I feel bad for her. I can’t imagine being stupid enough to believe that you can hang around with people like this, and not get treated like garbage. They are literally living examples of the kind of shit they spew online…and yet somehow, these girls still don’t see them for who they are, until it’s too late.
oeuf@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
I know what you’re saying but:
If they abused her it is them who are responsible, not her.
Pretty straightforward.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 day ago
That certainly goes for normal practice, but there is also an element of ignoring the warning signs and the zookeepers, climbing in the cage with the lion, and being shocked when mauled. It’s not like they made a secret of their attitudes.
steeznson@lemmy.world 1 day ago
To be fair, she could have kept quiet about this and avoided another round of people calling her names online, which would have been the easier path. Most people in this thread might know “Robinson” is dodgy but we’re not the target audience.
oeuf@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
The problem with that logic is that anyone can be let off the hook for immoral/illegal behaviour as long as they have said beforehand that they’ll do it.
If I walk into a shop and tell the shopkeeper I’m going to rob them should I then get to take whatever I want with impunity?
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 day ago
A more apt analogy would be an invite-only shop with a buzzer on the door, and the shopkeeper buzzing in the shoplifter having been told that this is Angus Strange, notorious thief, and he has brought with him a fast car and has no method of payment on his person other than a lead pipe.
steeznson@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Totally agree with you. I think society/politics has become polarised to the extent that we’ve all grown colder towards perceived “enemies”; at the same time people shouldn’t be victim blamed for abuse, no matter how dumb they are.
Additionally, what we perceive as “dumb” can sometimes be other people struggling with mental illness or disability.
oeuf@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
The bottom line is that people are accountable for their own actions and not the actions of others, and that’s exactly how it should be.