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Dissasterix@lemmy.world 1 year agoYou say Im propagandized :33 Both require Government+Corporate collusion. Oh, excuse me, in the new-speak, Community+MeansofProduction.
Show me a stateless Communism. However, we really should condense replies so we dont get out of whack.
irmoz@reddthat.com 1 year ago
This is pure fantasy. If there’s any ideology more opposed to corporate power, it’s communism. Do you even know what communism is? Please, give me a real answer.
“New-speak”? Workers seizing the means of production is literally in the Communist Manifesto. This isn’t some hiding of a real agenda or a new addition. Why are you so ignorant to the theory of the ideology you spend so much effort “critiquing”?
Please, tell me what is so absurd to you about the idea of workers democratically managing an organisation together. Tell me what is so absurd about the people democratically managing production as a whole together. Why does this sound so oppressive to you? Why does this speak to you of state power, or of corporations?
The state spends so much effort suppressing people when they try to organise. The state hates this. This is a threat to the state. The same is true of corporate power. When workers unionise, corporations panic and beg the state to intervene. The state has intervened and sent in armed police to gun down union organisers, and that’s ignoring the times corporations have sent private goon squads to put down native workers in foreign countries.
State and corporate power are against communism. Why do you think the US has invaded so many countries that have attempted it, to put it down and halt it in its tracks?
I’m sorry, but for the reasons stated above it’s pretty impossible to do that. But it has existed in pockets, such as revolutionary Catalonia.