Comment on A ‘demoralizing' trend has computer science grads out of work — even minimum wage jobs. Are 6-figure tech careers over?

• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Money isn’t cheap anymore.

  money has literally never been cheaper. there’s literally never been a time when VC was more willing to invest in new ideas, because the existing stock market can’t grow any larger than it already is, given the way that consumer demand is dwindling.

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  • sexybenfranklin@ttrpg.network ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Interest rates in the states are higher than they were five years ago, which means borrowing money to pay those inflated salaries is more expensive.

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      yeah, if you borrow from banks. it’s opposite if you try to get VC money, which has never been easier.

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  At least in our university, web dev was an elective, not a required core CS class. It’s totally reasonable for them to not know how to deal w/ a web server when all they’ve done up to that point is algorithms.

  We had a Ph.D work for us who struggled w/ that type of thing. They were absolutely brilliant in their niche (complex 3D modeling of fluid simulations), but integrating their work into our web stack was a nightmare for them (but fairly trivial for us). I asked them to structure their code in a way that would be easy for us to plug in to our web stack, and they looked at me like I was speaking Latin, when all I wanted was a simple entry-point with clearly defined inputs (give me a function to call that doesn’t need a bunch of magic numbers).

  If you want a web dev, hire someone w/ web dev experience or be willing to teach them. Not everyone in CS has that experience.

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• SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The number of times I’ve had to just say “thank you for your time” and cut a interview shoot is way to much. Shit like this is way way to common.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I had a candidate apologize about 10 min in when it was clear that we expected them to know how to actually write code…

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    • SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At least they apologized, I did that really early into my career, had a friend of mine set me up with what he thought was a good fit, only for me to walk into a senior level position and after 2 questions realize I’m not a good fit at all, tell them that I apologize for wasting their time and that I’m not qualified for what they’re looking for.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I certainly appreciate the honesty, and if we had another role that would suit that person, I would’ve switched the interview to that one instead.

        We had someone apply for a FE internship and they were failing, but I noticed they had BE skills in their resume so I switch the interview to that instead. We ended up hiring them for a FT BE role with the promise they could do full-stack if they wanted. They’ve been a great employee since, and I’m glad my boss was able to be flexible on that position (we needed another BE, but hadn’t created the position yet since we needed FE more).

        I can’t guarantee everywhere is like that, but I can say interviewing gets old and if we can fill a position (even if it’s not what we were expecting), we’ll do that.

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• homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  AI money is stupid cheap if you know who to bullshit. And, y’know, have no principles.

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  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    God this is true.

    I’ve seen some real snake oil projects get massive finding and everyone on board getting promos.

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