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You didnt answer any of my questions. Interesting. You must really love and respect our acting governments ;] I know you don’t.

No, we just won’t get anywhere until we get past the foundations.

Communism is the opposite of fascism?! This only makes sense if you believe in horse-shoe theory. And, I don’t.

I don’t believe in horseshoe theory and it still makes sense. Why shouldn’t this make sense?

The game theory IS the Occams Razor. A small govt commits small violence, and reciprocally.

This sounds like gibberish.

Benito said that ‘Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.’ Sounds a lot like today’s so-called neo-liberalism. Corrupt all the way down.

Yes, this is true. Capitalism, and liberalism (later neo-liberalism) inevitably leads to fascism.

If each person owns their [labor], how does it become the peoples’ [labor]? It gets redistributed. If you only own [widget] (not money) and government takes your [widgets] it is ostensibly a 100% tax. Just not of fiat, but [labor].

Because everyone owns these things communally. There is no private property, and thus no need for money. There is also no state, so no need for a separated governmental apparatus. The people rule themselves on equal footing, with no class distinctions. And all is made and shared on the principle of “from each according to their ability, to each according to their need”.

You need to move past the cold war propaganda that told you communism means big government. Communism means no government.

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Dissasterix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

No, we just won’t get anywhere until we get past the foundations.

Nah, Im good. I dont talk to people who show zero candor. Ive said a lot, and if you cant follow then-- tsk!

Answer at least the police use of force issue and if its good Ill probably reply. “Is it good that the State has a monopoly on force?”

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- irmoz@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Why are you asking such obvious questions? No, of course it isn’t fucking good.
  
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  - Dissasterix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It was always obvious, lol. Just trying to get you out the closet, sheesh. Lemmy is hilariously more Commie than Reddit, somehow. You’re pretending to be a radical enlightened centrist, who dont really actually exist. Stop it :p
    
    I dont think you’ve made points, tbh. You showed me a .png, deflected moral questions, and deferred to current state power whenever possible. But we’re getting a lil candor now ;]
    
    If right wing means ‘ultra capitalistic’, and capitalists dont like paying taxes, would it not be fair to assume that right-systems favor low taxes… Can you fund an excessive, wasteful, state on low taxes? Can you fund sweeping tyranny? This is just syllogistic reasoning. Its not some slippery academic nonsense. Im not appealed by authority.
    
    You can say a Commie totally-not-a-state doesnt use money, man. But it will still exist in a world that does. Scarcity will always exist. And thus markets/economies will always exist. Even if they’re black (aka the real free market, lol).
    
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    irmoz@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    You’re pretending to be a radical enlightened centrist
    
    What are you talking about? I haven’t pretended anything, certainly not that.
    
    I dont think you’ve made points, tbh.
    
    I’ve made two, which I’ve continued to elaborate on:
    
    You don’t understand the left right spectrum
    
    You don’t understand communism
    
    You showed me a .png
    
    Hey! I spent time making that! It roughly describes the left right spectrum. You barely even commented on it.
    
    deflected moral questions
    
    I’ve answered your questions dude… Wtf are you talking about?
    
    and deferred to current state power whenever possible
    
    Um, wtf are you talking about? I keep criticisng state power… Are you trolling me?
    
    If right wing means ‘ultra capitalistic’, and capitalists dont like paying taxes, would it not be fair to assume that right-systems favor low taxes…
    
    Yes, and they do. On the rich, anyway.
    
    Can you fund an excessive, wasteful, state on low taxes? Can you fund sweeping tyranny? This is just syllogistic reasoning. Its not some slippery academic nonsense. Im not appealed by authority.
    
    I’m not the one saying they actually want low taxes. They just want low taxes for the rich, by using either flat tax or very minor progressive taxing.
    
    You can say a Commie totally-not-a-state doesnt use money, man.
    
    Why say “totally-not-a-state”? Now you’re the one deferring to state power by assuming it’s necessary. And why should it use money if all goods are freely available?
    
    But it will still exist in a world that does.
    
    A world that does what? Use money? Well, if we’re for some reason assuming this end-stage communism has been reached without a global revolution, then methods can be set up for external trade, assuming this hypothetical communist society hasn’t been embargoed by the world for daring to try communism, like has happened to Cuba.
    
    Or invaded, like Vietnam, Argentina, Chile, etc…
    
    Scarcity will always exist.
    
    Who ever said it didn’t? But we already possess the capability to feed the world and still have some left over. The issue isn’t scarcity, it’s economics.
    
    And thus markets/economies will always exist.
    
    Economies maybe, but markets aren’t inevitable. They haven’t always existed.
    
    Even if they’re black (aka the real free market, lol).
    
    If you’re gonna appeal to the black market as some sort of ideal free market for the world market to aspire to, then I worry that I’ve been taking you far too seriously.
    
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