Comment on Whether you use AI, think it's a "fun stupid thing for memes", or even ignore it, you should know it's already polluting worse than global air travel.

NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What is not true?

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  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They said that AI is polluting worse than global air travel. They are mixing up pollution vs energy used. If it was pollution global air travel creates 80 Million Tons of CO a month. All AI in use is 15 million tons a month. Global air travel is far more polluting.

    As an aside, and this is crazy: there is a mention, in the article OP posted, that suggests that humans, are far worse than AI for CO creation depending on the task. Which I found surprising.

    The data comes a paper in the journal Nature:

    Our findings reveal that AI systems emit between 130 and 1500 times less CO2e per page of text generated compared to human writer, while AI illustration systems emit between 310 and 2900 times less CO2e per image than their human counterparts. Emissions analyses do not account for social impacts such as professional displacement, legality, and rebound effects. In addition, AI is not a substitute for all human tasks. Nevertheless, at present, the use of AI holds the potential to carry out several major activities at much lower emission levels than can humans.

    Ok I honestly did not see that coming.

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    • jbk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      lmao time for a new wave of doomerism and anti-humanity

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• Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Very well thought out response. Will respond in kind.

  HurrDeeeDurrr K

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  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks for clarifying. You made up statistics, your post is nonsense.

    And you responded without any consideration that the consistent reliance on computers, in general, is using a HUGE amount of energy, AI or not, indicate that you simply want to chase windmills and not have a conversation. Well played.

    HurrDeeeDurrrr indeed. Next time let the grown ups talk.

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    • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Gaslighting schmuck. I “made up” nothing. Good day.

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      • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Arrg! I didnt mean to delete what I wrote I was just trying to update it.

        You confused energy use with pollution.

        And what I wrote before was:

        I basically said that I was serious, people if they cared would stop using computers. But I am not, you are not, so data centers are going to grow no matter what we do, and computing use is going to increase energy consumption. We need to (even says in the article you posted in the links) improve efficiency, get better hardware, use lower cost training models, use energy recovery and not use lossy evaporator cooling.

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