Comment on ActivityPub vs RSS Atom etc. Why Federate instead of aggrigate?
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 12 hours agopersistent content like forums, blogs, etc.
I don’t know if [Jabber] is a fascist project, but it is effectively a fully public communications network and so can be analyzed and utilized by anyone for any purpose. What I’m proposing wouldn’t be any more opaque, it would be built on the open web.
Now, how aware are you that GNUSocial was built upon jabber technology?
Coopr8@kbin.earth 6 hours ago
I did not mean to say Jabber is a fascist project. You said "ActivityPub has been a fascist project from its inception." and I was responding to that. XMPP has end to end encryption protocols and so is not a part of the open web fundamentally.
GNUSocial was built on OStatus which actually is the closest thing to the tech stack I am talking about in my post. It did not include XMPP/Jabber as far as I can tell. Interestingly the Wikipedia article on OStatus claims that ActivityPub arose out of the OStatus project in order to reduce the complexity of implementation, so another mark towards that explanation, but I'd like to hear more from devs involved.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 5 hours ago
The replacement of Jabber from ActivityPub on that paragraph was intentional retrospective exercise for you to read that Jabber has been part of the open web since pubsubhubbub was a thing. That fact that you denied, while not detailing that OStatus is a Websub (XEP 60) implementation, shows me that you were incapable of connecting Jabber webclients, like GNUSocial, Friendica, Movim, Kaidan, Libervia, and most famously Converse.js, have already implemented fora, weblogs, and more, without the need to JSONify the web.
Coopr8@kbin.earth 4 hours ago
Lol, bro, my incapability or your lack of clear communcation? Modifying a quote of my comment is about as obtuse as you can get.
GNUSocial had an XMPP plugin, it was not built on Jabber. Yes XMPP clients have microblogging built out, but still lack some competitive features to the Fediverse, and fundamentally are still a server-based ecosystem rather than a self-hosted p2p ecosystem for persistent content which is what my post was discussing.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 4 hours ago
like?
So, unlike Peertube, that is a sever hosted p2p system with persistent infohashing content, that aggregates under ActivityPub, which requires a native webclient, or a custom one?