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Comment on ActivityPub vs RSS Atom etc. Why Federate instead of aggrigate?

PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Why do we advocate for, and pour hours of development into, ActivityPub rather than

Because that’s what the devs are interested in doing. If you’re going to ask anyone, ask them.

a big thing you’re missing is discovery of old content and searching. You’re describing a purely ephemeral social network. Activitypub itself can’t solve that, but this is why federated networks exist instead of purely P2P.
Maybe some people want that, after all Snapchat became popular. But it wouldn’t work for something like Lemmy.

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Coopr8@kbin.earth ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Also isn't this where Fediverse devs might be looking? I am hoping so.

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- PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Maybe? But I wouldn’t hold my breath.
  
  I mean, it’s the best option you have, but that doesn’t make it a good option.
  
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Coopr8@kbin.earth ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Why would it be purely ephemeral? The content isn't going anywhere, and an RSS reader can crawl a whole archive.

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- PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It’s ephemeral because now you’re demanding that everyone stand up their own web-addressable servers that the rss readers can search, if they want their own content to be searchable. Which isn’t going to happen. So in practice, it’s going to be either federated, or ephemeral.
  
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  - Coopr8@kbin.earth ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Free and premium blog and website hosting services are abundant, for those who dont want to self host directly this is the easy option. There is no reason a host of this type couldn't adopt or be set up to have the protocols I'm discussing baked in to their CMS/templates as options.
    
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    PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Because with federated services people don’t have to host an activity, you can join a federated instance that someone else maintains.
    
    The typical Twitter user balked at just selecting a mastodon instance when they signed up in the app… similar issues for reddit users looking to come to lemmy. If you think that they’re going to be willing to go and set up and manage their own server, even on a free hosting site, you’re wildly mistaken.
    
    If you don’t think you need the normies on your social network anyways, I have no polite way to tell you that most people want to join social networks with their friends.
    
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