Buddy, it’s right there on the page I linked. Even your article says they’re hoping to get the price down to under $30k, at some point. That’s why I looked up their website directly, to see how much they’re currently selling them for. It’s $214k. I don’t know what else to tell you.
I see one for $43k on there, I don’t see any for $200k on that site
But that’s kinda irrelevant, as is how much Amazon’s robots cost. The point is how quickly robotics is advancing
There’s so many companies making these that I can’t find the one I saw weeks ago. They’re being tested in real world conditions. There’s a million groups playing with these things, trying to get them to do more and more tasks
And think of what full automation would look like… It would be a bunch of factory equipment like it is now. The automatons just need to carry and place stuff between stations, maybe slot things together and screw them in. That’s not that high a bar
I just don’t see the line where any of that is impossible. It seems inevitable if society doesn’t collapse this decade
I just don’t see the line where any of that is impossible. It seems inevitable
I agree with you that robots building robots is not impossible. I disagree with you that it’s therefore inevitable. I strongly disagree with you that it’s therefore inevitable in the immediate future.
I think it’s inevitable because capitalism, capitalism loves to treat people like replaceable cogs.
These would be literal replaceable cogs that never rest, don’t have rights, don’t need to account for safety concerns, and don’t have any of the other messy human bits
And even if we managed to suddenly outgrow capitalism, being able to have robots making robots in space would be a huge game changer
I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith,at this point. You send me an article about a specific humanoid robot, claiming it costs $8k. That article clearly states the make and model, as well as provides pictures of the unit in question. It is the Pudu D9 humanoid robot.
So, I sent you the website where it is being sold, which clearly states a price, that doesn’t match your claim…and now all of a sudden, you don’t even know what robot you were talking about before?
Yeah, well, searching things is impossible these days, and after clicking around for a while I found one that looked similar.
I did read an article about one, went to their page and it was listed as $8k, I looked up the specs and it looked like it could pick up about 20lbs and has a weak but reasonable grip, and it made an impact. Then I saw video of someone recording one running down a sidewalk - it was a cell phone recording, but the robot was controlled by someone filming a demo in public
I don’t really care if you take me at my word or not, the price factor to me means more because it means every robotics program in the world will be able to play with them.
But again, this isn’t the core of my argument at all, but by the time I was looking up links I was kinda getting bored with this. I like to argue over ideas, it’s a field I’m following closely with so much happening and we’re just too far apart to make this constructive.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Buddy, it’s right there on the page I linked. Even your article says they’re hoping to get the price down to under $30k, at some point. That’s why I looked up their website directly, to see how much they’re currently selling them for. It’s $214k. I don’t know what else to tell you.
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
I see one for $43k on there, I don’t see any for $200k on that site
But that’s kinda irrelevant, as is how much Amazon’s robots cost. The point is how quickly robotics is advancing
There’s so many companies making these that I can’t find the one I saw weeks ago. They’re being tested in real world conditions. There’s a million groups playing with these things, trying to get them to do more and more tasks
And think of what full automation would look like… It would be a bunch of factory equipment like it is now. The automatons just need to carry and place stuff between stations, maybe slot things together and screw them in. That’s not that high a bar
I just don’t see the line where any of that is impossible. It seems inevitable if society doesn’t collapse this decade
Mniot@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
The disconnect is coming here:
I agree with you that robots building robots is not impossible. I disagree with you that it’s therefore inevitable. I strongly disagree with you that it’s therefore inevitable in the immediate future.
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
I think it’s inevitable because capitalism, capitalism loves to treat people like replaceable cogs.
These would be literal replaceable cogs that never rest, don’t have rights, don’t need to account for safety concerns, and don’t have any of the other messy human bits
And even if we managed to suddenly outgrow capitalism, being able to have robots making robots in space would be a huge game changer
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith,at this point. You send me an article about a specific humanoid robot, claiming it costs $8k. That article clearly states the make and model, as well as provides pictures of the unit in question. It is the Pudu D9 humanoid robot.
So, I sent you the website where it is being sold, which clearly states a price, that doesn’t match your claim…and now all of a sudden, you don’t even know what robot you were talking about before?
Give me a break, man.
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Yeah, well, searching things is impossible these days, and after clicking around for a while I found one that looked similar.
I did read an article about one, went to their page and it was listed as $8k, I looked up the specs and it looked like it could pick up about 20lbs and has a weak but reasonable grip, and it made an impact. Then I saw video of someone recording one running down a sidewalk - it was a cell phone recording, but the robot was controlled by someone filming a demo in public
I don’t really care if you take me at my word or not, the price factor to me means more because it means every robotics program in the world will be able to play with them.
But again, this isn’t the core of my argument at all, but by the time I was looking up links I was kinda getting bored with this. I like to argue over ideas, it’s a field I’m following closely with so much happening and we’re just too far apart to make this constructive.