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Comment on Proton Mail Suspended Journalist Accounts at Request of Cybersecurity Agency

medium.com/…/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-d…

There’s a lot more nuance to it than just ‘Proton CEO supports Trump (and therefore all of Trump’s policies)’

From the comments: “Andy’s statement was to recognise the choice of the Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust division at DOJ. This is someone who has history of going after tech monopolies and allowing room for the little guys (startups) to have a fair chance to grow and innovate. This was not a political endorsement.”

And at the very least the CEO controversy reveals all the issues with America’s two party Sith or Jedi system, there’s no room for nuance or discussion, just rage. Look at all the other top comments here.

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Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I know i am well aware of what happened. I dont think hes a right winger but this take was so far off reality it was alarming. Go read through the reddit thread where people push him to defend his statement and he cant.

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- shifty@leminal.space ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I have similar conflicted feelings after being a long time Visionary Subscriber.
  
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  - Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Its a hard choice because I do like the work they are doing and I like paying for the suite of tools all in one. But I feel like the tools are half baked and missing a ton of features which is to be expected by an up and coming company. I dont know if I should continue to support them to reach their goal or just move onto another company and delay having an strong competitor in the market. Them having half owner ship in a swiss non profit is pretty much the only thing giving me strong trust in the product not getting enshittified but with the crappy AI getting slapped in its testing my resolve.
    
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- pressanykeynow@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  he is symapthic to the right wing narative at a time where any sane person shouldnt have been
  
  He’s not American though, things have nuance sout of your tribal system.
  
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  - ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I’m not German, but I would know better than to praise a pick from the AfD.
    
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  - Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I couldnt find where he was from so feel free to correct me if you know. But my guess is that Andy is American or at least has lived in America for enough years to know about American politics.
    
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    pressanykeynow@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    You are probably right, I assumed he was European since Proton is based in there.
    
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stardust@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
That article is such bullshit. That anonymously submitted medium article that gets floated around ignores Internet Association, so wouldn’t be shocking if it was from proton attempting to do PR damage fixating on identity politics with intentional omission of Internet Association involvement.

Yen conveniently ignored that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by “small business” like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.

And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. eff.org/…/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-associa…

So yeah, proton founder cherry picked information that tried to make it seem like it was acceptable to praise the pick when reality is the past is too murky to endorse in any manner.

Now seeing straight up bribing and gifts from corporations not even hiding it the whole thing aged like milk.

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- shifty@leminal.space ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Ugh. My Obi-wan moment or something. ‘You were the Chosen One Proton!’
  
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artyom@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
There is no nuance in American politics. Only tribal culture wars. You're team red or team blue. Simple as. Something good? Claim your team. Something bad? Blame the other team. That being said, Andy is not American.

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ultranaut@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The nuance seems to be that he made stupid partisan statements not because he is a partisan but because he is stupid. He profoundly misunderstands Trump and Republicans if he genuinely believes that nonsense. Its hard to trust someone with such terrible judgement, and its hard to trust Proton because they handled the situation so poorly.

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- shifty@leminal.space ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Agreed on the stupidity. He should have had PR running his accounts or at least approving his posts. But now that the cat is out of the bag I’m really conflicted about being a Proton Visionary subscriber, and try to use other services like Filen, Cryptpad, Bitwarden, Aegis, etc, so I’m not all concentrated on Proton like I was on Google Suite.
  
  I just made a Tuta mail account for if I do decide to move away from Proton.
  
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Jerry@feddit.online ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yes, well stated. This is why I usually skip reading people's comments. The vast majority see everything through their own agendas and just echo words they hear.

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