I’m not saying I’m not utterly insane too. I am a people afterall. Considering that 99% of people are non-vegan, nearly everyone is like a flesh-craving vampire/zombie. That’s just scratching the surface as being a decent and intelligent person has more filters obviously. There are asshole vegans, so “not being an asshole” is another filter that groups many people into as well. I’d say majority of reddit/lemmy people are assholes.
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TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 months ago
All but you?
quacky@lemmy.world 2 months ago
unknown@piefed.social 2 months ago
You are right, we are all mad here. I agree with you. Empathy and compassion is mocked and exploited, vegans are treated like a joke. Freedom fighters, activists for equality, climate and genocide protesters, etc, are treated like stupid and evil terrorists.
Our species sucks and we fully deserve this climate apocalypse we've created.
We are predisposed to be cruel and greedy locusts, who build and support systems of inequality with undeservingly powerful leaders who only ever lust for war/more. This is the story of nearly every human civilisation we have history for. Those who strived for a better civilisation are destroyed by those who want conquest, money, power, a leg up with their gods, etc.
I hope beyond hope that we fully die out before any of us get off world in any meaningful way to propagate yet more obscenities. It's stupid to think that there aren't trillionaire funds currently working on this, I don't think it was just a punchline in Don't Look Up.
And I also hope that maybe one day, billions of years from now, when the earth has had time to heal from the damage we have caused, something better than us could evolve here.
quacky@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You and I both resonate on the same fundamental truth, but I get the sense that you’re more actively wishing death, “I hope beyond hope that we fully die out”, where I am more so just paranoid and avoidant. I agree that that activists do thankless work. The phrase, “We are predisposed to be cruel,” sounds Hobbesian in that it presupposes that man is naturally cruel, though I never read Hobbes so I don’t know actually. I think people are naturally irrational, but not cruel per se. I think they are also great at adapting, which leads to a frog in boiling water situation; there’s a sort of natural adaptation to toxic environments without knowing how or wanting to fix it. I think you’re more so an intense “hate humanity” misanthrope while I’m more a “mistrust & fear humanity” misanthrope. Fight/flight, anger/fear, both are responding to the same perceived stress.
unknown@piefed.social 2 months ago
I'm just a very jaded freeze avoidant who's met enough people and read enough history to see the patterns.
I know what happens when people think they are better than others and what they do when have power over those they see as being beneath them. You know it too. Everybody does, it's the world around us and the world in our history books.
But yeah I am a misanthrope, you're right on that front. I'm too tired to do much but occasionally rant online about how much we suck and how fucked the future is though, so I'm not some millitant moron with a quest, lol.
Chronic fatigue and a disability that fucks with my ability to talk have basically taken care of that ever happening, not that I believe it would do anything but make me look stupid if I tried tho. And that's not to mention all the trauma that's left me so freeze state avoidant.I don't know how comforting you find learning about how fucked we are climate and resource wise, but if knowing this will all end soon is any sort of relief for you, read on because we're rapidly running out of fresh water and arable land and current predictions suggest that by 2032, we'll cross 450ppm or so of atmospheric c02.
Phytoplankton, particularly those with calcium carbonate shells like coccolithophores, are highly sensitive to ocean acidification caused by rising cO2 levels.
When atmospheric cO2 levels exceed 450-500 ppm, ocean pH decreases, making the water more acidic.
This process reduces the availability of carbonate ions, which are essential for these organisms to build and maintain their exoskeletons.
They produce 50 to 80% of the planets oxygen. And are a staple in the food system.
Source for the last bit here
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 months ago
why put reddit/lemmy qualifiers on it? You’re right in the title. People, in general, are assholes.
quacky@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s fair when considering other massive online platforms. I guess subconsciously I assume people are somehow less insane in real life than online, but the book “just how dumb are we”, facts in history, and other statistics show people are wackos universally
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 2 months ago
It sure fucking feels that way sometimes. I had an argument with one of my parents the other day over the fact that she was completely incapable of understanding any distinction between a war and a genocide. “It’s war; they’re the enemy. You kill the enemy in war” - in direct response to me asking if she was okay with elementary schools being bombed.
db2@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No, all but me!