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lalo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days agoDo those crops depend on transportation of pollinators? To me it seems like they don’t.
By your own admission, there are natural pollinators. We can also manually pollinate them, which reinforces my point that systems that *contain* exploitation should be improved.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Manually pollinating thousands of almond trees is definitely possible. But then you should expect almonds to be in the same price range as vanilla pods, another manually pollinated crop.
lalo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Thanks for conceding. Now to your new point: once the majority of people are vegan, we can focus on those systems that can be improved. Currently the majority does not even care about animal exploitation, so there’s very little value in trying to change systems that don’t depend on animal exploitation.
Those two counter examples that I provided aren’t all possibilities to replace open pollination. Surely experts in the field can come up with better solutions once this problem actually becomes a worry in the minds of the majority.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The question is: can you turn it into a product? Would people be willing to pay $100/lb for hand-pollinated almonds? It’s potentially something to explore on a small scale.
I would love to know how many vegans would pay that much for an ethical product.
lalo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
As I’ve said in the above comment, hand pollination is not the only alternative. Fixing this problem is a bridge we’ll cross when most people are on board with veganism.