Comment on Microsoft doesn't understand the Fediverse
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day agoYet VSCode is one of the most popular IDEs with many other IDEs being forks of it.
I am amazed this is even remotely controversial. It’s one of the few products they make that’s actually good. Just tells you how far off the real world most Lemmy users are lol.
Popular. So coca cola is the best drink?
JetBrains are miles ahead visual code for example.
Funny how you just have to be condescending, almost like you don’t have any real arguments. But keep on being “amazed”, bet you’re “amazed” about ai vibe coding, I mean it is all the rage …
I actually like JetBrains too. It isn’t mutually exclusive to only like one or the other.
You haven’t made a single real argument either.
Here let me make mine:
VSCode works with a huge range of languages, is very flexible and extendable, and has great support for remote development, development in containers, and even has cloud hosted IDEs based on it (Eclipse Che anyone?). Despite being web based it’s somehow faster/lighter than JetBrains.
I’m being condescending lol? No u 😁
So as I thought you don’t have a real point. You just came here to call the popular thing bad.
What does JetBrains do that makes it miles ahead?
Just to chime in with my own opinion on JetBrains’ tooling, my first language was Java - admittedly its been a while since I tried Java (and other JVM languages like Kotlin) in VSCode but when I last did it was a bit of a challenge. I also did some Android development for a while and if “standalone” Java was awkward in VSCode I assume Android development would have been too (Android development in general was nightmare fuel until Android Studio came along, never really did like Eclipse all that much).
After expanding out into other languages, I have enjoyed the specialization of each of the JetBrains IDEs. VSCode always felt like a “Jack of all trades, master of none” type of experience for me personally. I have tried out Zed recently and while I think its going to be a decent editor, I still have similar issues with it that I have in VSCode (in that how well it works depends on what language you’re using).
The exception to their tooling that I haven’t really liked though is Fleet - which was their answer to creating an equivalent to VSCode. It hasn’t really seen a lot of development and feels more like the forgotten step child of JetBrains. Also the “Remote Development”/JetBrains Gateway features can be really hit or miss though thankfully I don’t need that sort of functionality often.
On mint it actually finds the C# sources in Godot, for example. Vscode is a nightmare to set up, there are configs, other files, project files, and other parameters that just aren’t taken into account. Or having, gasp, code in a folder, it just isn’t getting scanned by vscode. You can surely get it to work, but if you don’t use the base boilerplate setup it just doesn’t function well at all.
I have used visual studio since early 2000 and it was good, then it became bloated, and vscode is IMO just a lighter version of that bloated visual.
VSCode and Visual Studio aren’t from the same code base. They aren’t commonly used for the same things, or on the same platforms. Do you think they are comparable because they have similar names?
Not understanding how to use the thing doesn’t make it bad. It’s not wonder your confused if you think it’s an alternative to Visual Studio.
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 hours ago
Funnily I have been fine with a lot of Microsoft software before, but VSCode was not one of them. Mostly because I’m very picky about something I’ll be using all day everyday and for that VSCode has too many issues for my taste.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
Yeah editors are largely a matter of taste for some people. I won’t say VSCode is perfectly to my taste. The issue is it’s easy to use and works with just about every language, tool, and environment I need it to. Like I would probably prefer Zed or Neovim in some areas. Zed won’t work on one of my machines properly for some unknown reason. Neovim would require too much tweaking and learning before it could be useful. Even then I couldn’t guarantee I would actually be as productive as VSCode since not all the same tools are available. It might not work in every project I end up working on.
Essentially I have given up perfection in pursuit of convenience. If you have the time, patience, and the certainly of what you are working on then other IDEs and tooling can be much more tailored to you.