Comment on There is no good reason why there is still homelessness and poverty

BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Allero@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Absolutely. Most people being low on money is essential to making the system work.

  Otherwise, no one would take terrible low-paying jobs that pay for billionaires’ lavish lifestyles.

  And so is the real estate market. Any excess of money you get sinks into having a place to live. Once population overall earns more, housing prices skyrocket. It’s an ingenious trap to keep us eternally broke and powerless, while feeding the rich.

  There’s no market-based solution for this. We need a serious intervention. As long as we don’t put the working majority first, unsurprisingly, the world is gonna suck.

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• M1ch431@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If everyone owned a house real estate values would plummet.

  If e.g. macroeconomics are working against human interest, they can fuck off. Real estate shouldn’t be something speculative and dominated by forces such as private equity and landlords.

  Housing and property are a right and it would serve us to act like it.

  If you gave everyone $1,000,000 the value of a million dollars willing crash.

  If you gave everybody a million to be used to better their lives, their community, and society at large - let the value of the dollar crash in the lens of the old ways.

  Incentivizing positive action is beneficial for everyone, as long as we don’t build a house of cards and we consider those around us. Incentivizing wealth hoarding, ruthlessness, and the consolidation of power is only beneficial for those at the top of the food chain and creates vast, untold amounts of suffering.

  The dark secret about money is that it only works when there have enough for everyone.

  Money is a distortion of value. And you don’t need to be valuable to the most greedy of us to deserve to live and be provided what you need to live.

  Monopolization, market dominance, and stagnation has gotten us to where we are: individuals, communities, and societies of people powerless to affect society in any meaningful way, because of “the economy”, “the cost”, “the billionaires/job creators will leave” gasp D:

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  • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I think you two are actually on the same page, in that capitalism strives on inequality and dependence, and that we should push billionaires out of the system.

    The original comment was not advocating for capitalism and the old ways, it was just saying that making us poor is essential to keep capitalism running, and it’s not a good thing.

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    • M1ch431@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, I know they weren’t. Regardless, I apologize for my bluntness. Everything they said is true if we don’t change and evolve.

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  • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    In a way the guy before you is right: Some things would crash. For example, if everyone has a million, people wouldn’t be forced to do horrendous things for no pay. For example, nobody would work at a brothel, sell drugs or work as a modern slave picking fruit on a field. If people would do these jobs, they’d only do that for much, much more money.

    But these things are things that only exist (at that price point) because enough people are currently desperate enough to be exploitable. In a somewhat just system, these kinds of exploitation shouldn’t be possible.

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    • M1ch431@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s absolutely heart-wrenching to see human potential being snuffed out, to see this level of suffering.

      Truly, the only things we stand to lose by incentivizing positive action is our dysfunction. Good riddance.

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