Comment on Unified Fediverse App - a browser solution?
lime@feddit.nu 3 weeks agono it doesn’t. most clients open third-party links in the actual browser. interstellar has a setting for that.
i’m saying that the functionality you’re describing is already perfectly encapsulated by a normal browser, and what you want is that, but limited to a handful of sites.
Coopr8@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
This is an issue of reading comprehension, I'm talking about a browser with a UI customized to fit Fediverse needs first and websites second, plus a service embedded in the browser to pull unification from each service into a single stream.
Preserving website functionality is still essential to the browser, because both the fediverse clients and the links posted on them shoukd in my opinion be opened in that same browser by default (or set to open a different browser if the user prefers).
Im just talking about UI, no ine said anything about blocking websites. Just because the address bar doesnt live onscreen by default doesn't mean it should be eliminated entirely.
lime@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
so a set of pwas with a tabbed ui on top. right. i think my sticking point is, what is the “tailored ui” that fediverse services require? if we’re already using the web interfaces of the services themselves, what is left? notification handling? because personally i don’t want notifications to be locked in an app, my desktop handles my notification feed. i used to have those notification counters on my tabs, using a little js snippet that rendered a number on the favicon. but then i realised that i was just reinventing a thing that was already handled at another level.
Coopr8@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
Why don't the highest use rate clients for Fediverse services look like standard browsers? There is a level of pure aesthetic sensibility at play.
I'm interested in what you mean by your desktop handling your notifications, do you have a central log of notifications you can access via your desktop?
This is actually a pretty great angle I hadn't fully thought out, most clients do push notifications, so is what I'm really talking about just a push notification log with the ability to filter for a set of designated sources? That would definitely handle a hefty chunk of what I'm getting at, the rest is basically just a browser skin and some extensions.
lime@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
they don’t? i feel like they pretty much do, considering they’re all web pages.
every desktop environment i’ve used in the past 10 years has this, it’s basically been the default from windows 8 forward. GNOME puts them front and center in a dropdown in the middle, windows and deepin has a sidebar, KDE pops out a whole window for them.
basically the crux of it is what you want to do with your notifications. for me, a notification is an indicator that someone wants something, so the action it should perform is bring me to whoever it is. if that’s all you need, then you’re already there because every client i’ve used already has notification settings that allow you to filter stuff.
the reason i’m asking questions is that you’re all over the stack here. you’re talking about a user chrome, then you’re talking about consolidating messages, then about notification filters. i think it can all coalesce into something if you start from the capabilities of activitypub itself. it’s basically a messaging system at its core, with clients all deciding how to handle the contents of each message. i’ve long thought that neither twitterlikes or redditlikes actually play to the strength of the protocol, and that activitypub needs some sort of killer app to really shine. if you think you have something, you should let it form into a coherent idea and present it.