Comment on Ice obtains access to Israeli-made spyware that can hack phones and encrypted apps

• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sure, and what will adding more violence accomplish? What has violent opposition ever accomplished? Unless we’re willing to wage a full on revolution (which would have different targets), all that’ll happen is more people will die and we’ll justify the rhetoric that these are “bad people” with “gang affiliations.” The more “success” you have opposing ICE, the more justified the admin will be in using the National Guard and maybe even the federal military.

  None of that sounds like progress to me. Working through the system takes longer, but I do think it’s more likely to be successful.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Read about the history of fascism, and the one and only way it has ever been defeated.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And what way is that?

      For example, Spain became a liberal democracy after the death of Fernando Franco. Alberto Fujimori of Peru was forced out due to public outcry over a corruption scandal during the runoff for his third term. Silvio Berlusconi of Italy resigned after a budget bill he pushed for was rejected. None of those involved a violent overthrow.

      Sometimes that’s the only option (i.e. Nazi Germany and Italy under Mussolini), but not always.

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