Comment on Lyft now lets drivers prioritize matches with women and nonbinary riders

dsmk@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• otter@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They’d need a toggle for the feature on the rider side as well. Like “hide my gender”

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• glimse@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wouldn’t need it at all if rideshare drivers stopped sexually assaulting passengers

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  • db2@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are plenty of sexually aggressive riders too. It’s not one sided. We can summarize it thus: people suck.

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    • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Perhaps this whole “random people using their regular car to give rides to total strangers” thing was a bad idea…

      What if instead the rides were given in specially modified cars that can include some security features for both parties? And in order to pay for this, perhaps there could be some kind of central company that owned the cars and simply hired the drivers?

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      • db2@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s just crazy talk. Next you’ll tell us there should be really big municipally-run cars that a whole bunch of people can ride at once which makes multiple stops. Insanity!

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      • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        On one hand, yes. On the other hand, have you known many companies that have successfully weeded out creeps that work there?

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    • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      True! Good point

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    • flumph@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      riders were the accused party 43% of the time in sexual assault incident reports

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  • dsmk@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can’t really comment on that as in my city (not US) to drive for these companies you need a license, background checks, etc, which seems to stop a lot of bad stuff. Not saying it doesn’t happen - you can’t never completely stop it - but there are ways to reduce it.

    Anyway, they could just allow customers to select their preferred gender, would make anyone that wants to use such option happy, and we wouldn’t even have to talk about discrimination.

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• AnonTwo@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I'd assume if you get legal action thrown at you though, it'd be a lot harder to deny if you also were picking a gender to get specific drivers.

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  • dsmk@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Legal action for picking the “wrong” option in an app? Also, “I’m gender fluid, your honor”, so good luck proving anything.

    By “nefarious purposes” I meant serious stuff. Some deranged fuck decides to kill and there’s not much you can do after they point a gun or put a knife to the driver’s neck. It’s too late by then.

    I don’t know, I understand their intention, but it seems to have some flaws.

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    • AnonTwo@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I'm pretty sure the nefarious purpose one isn't actually dealt with by this and is an extreme outlier

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• flumph@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Explain how sorting the list of available passengers by gender is discrimination? It’s being rolled out in huge metropolitan markets so there will be enough drivers for everyone to get one.

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  • bou@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    @flumph if they allowed sorting the list by race, instead of by gender... would you understand how it's discrimination, then?

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    • flumph@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The protected category doesn’t matter, I don’t see how anyone is getting a leg up or being held back by the feature.

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      • bou@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        @flumph so, if there was a button that allowed drivers to prioritize white passengers, but there wasn't one to prioritize black passengers, that wouldn't be discriminatory to you?

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  • dsmk@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The option allows customers to prioritize drivers from two of their 3 gender groups: “female” and “non-binary”. One group is left out and if you happen to be in that group, you’ll end up doing less trips, making less money.

    I wouldn’t be happy with a setting to prioritize “male”, so you can see why I’m not happy with a setting that prioritizes “female” and “non-binary”. You either give the customer the option to prioritize any gender or you don’t.

    Since they can’t verify one’s gender, the potential for abuse is there. A customer could prioritise these groups if they wanted to target them and the driver could also pick one of these genders if they wanted to have people of said gender in their car.

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    • flumph@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The option allows customers to prioritize drivers…

      Nope, it doesn’t. The feature is for drivers, not passengers.

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