Comment on Hypothesis: Insufficient moderation tools lead to instance protectionism, which leads to a decline in the overall discussion quality on Lemmy

• Bodongs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The big difference is 1. Finding communities is not easy. Can you name every one of your interests off the top of your head? 2. Just punching in communities from reddit 1 for 1 doesn’t work. 3. Content and user base. There is no discussions for my favorite podcasts here and if there are where do I find them.

  It took me a decade to build out a decent sub list on Reddit and I still stumble upon new interests now and again. I don’t know how to “stumble upon” decent communities on Lemmy and I’m sick of wading through cartoon horse cocks.

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  • Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you have a decent list from Reddit you can use sub.rehab to map Reddit to Lemmy / Kbin

    If you just want to look for communities you can use browse.feddit.de

    Takes some time to get everything set up but I honestly prefer having only stuff that interests me in my feed + no porn randomly popping up

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    • Bodongs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Appreciate the leads here!

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      • TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Also check out lemmyverse.net

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They still call it squabbles on that site lol

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  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah I think that respondent is being defensive and really doesn’t get the point.

    Discovery sucks. Its really bad and its hurting the ability of lemmy to be a viable alternative.

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  • Brekky@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Option number 2 worked pretty well for me, porting from Reddit. Not perfect but then neither was reddit.

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• theragu40@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  One thing I don’t like about the approach of blocking things is that the frontpage of reddit still allowed some level of discovery. If something in a niche community got hot enough it would break into my feed even though I didn’t subscribe to that community. It was a cool way to expand my content on an occasional basis.

  If I’m going to only view my subscribed list on lemmy then I have to also manually go out and intentionally discover new communities. That’s hard, because some of my favorite small reddit communities were ones I never would have thought to search for.

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  • Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That got me very confused as I never had that happening on my Reddit feed. I had to go back to Reddit to notice that I actually had that setting disabled.

    Anyway, I don’t think something like that would really work on Lemmy. Reddit has his algorithm that devours your privacy, chews on your data and spits out results that may or may not interests you. Lemmy is much more simple than that. IIRC it’s “algorithm” is little more than a logarithmic curve and the (very based) devs are committed to user privacy, so your data will never get analyzed, not even to sugar coat your feed. For me it’s a feature, though I get that not everyone might feel that way.

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    • Spzi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      the (very based) devs are committed to user privacy, so your data will never get analyzed

      All credit to the devs, but Lemmy isn’t great on privacy. Your votes are technically public, and there is no way to guarantee what you delete or edit is actually deleted and edited. You’re right the data is not used to customize your feed, but not because it’s private. It isn’t.

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      • Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You are right. I don’t mind the upvotes being public, I do mind the deletion thing (although it’s an inherent flaw of federation, hard to get around it) but both are points against it having good privacy.

        I guess what I meant is that the platform makes no attempt at linking your online persona to anything else. It doesn’t even collect IP adresses and has very poor logging - btw this is actually a liability with the ongoing CSAM issue.

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    • maltasoron@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That got me very confused as I never had that happening on my Reddit feed.

      Same for me, but I never had trouble finding new content. Discovering subreddits (and communities) through word-of-mouth worked perfectly fine.

      Also, unlike Reddit, Lemmy has a community browser.

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• MargotRobbie@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I mean, I use my LW account for local and lemm.ee for all (because it can see more posts). They are just… different, although I am getting pretty annoyed at the mass of r/politics level politcal discourse on the LW local feed.

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  • Bodongs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What do you mean “it can see more posts”? I thought the point of world was that it was the general everything respiratory.

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    • Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      lemmy.world has been defederated and has defederated some pretty large instances. On the othe hand lemm.ee is probably the instance with one of the most open fed lists

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      • Bodongs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        DUMB. Just another reason for the average user to not bother with the platform IMHO. I can’t be arsed to figure out who is censoring or who isn’t I just want it to work.

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    • MargotRobbie@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Off the top of my head, LW accounts can’t see posts from beehaw, hexbear, or piracy communities on db0 due to defed/blocks.

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      • Bodongs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Whaaaaaat. See this is the shit I’m talking about. Stupid I have to watch out for these kinds of pitfalls that I only know about because somebody happens to tell me.

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