Based on what has already happened, I’d definitely say Dems are the lesser evil. That’s literally what this means in this context. Still evil, just not as much as Donald dump.
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3abas@lemmy.world 6 months ago
For the Democrats/liberals who think they’re leftist in the room, note that this done by Biden, how it was put on hold for review so that news spread and pacifies the anger, and how it came back stronger when you forgot about it. And now Democrats will shrug and say “Trump is in charge, we’re powerles.”
Democrats are not your friends, they are not a lesser evil, we need a revolution.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Dems didn’t invent ice.
Nor Epstein
Nor trump.
Voters need to take some culpability to their own mistakes here and stop blaming it on anyone else but themselves for this shit show they created.
richardmtanguay@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I hate voters! They are so gullible to be voting for the same bosses over and over again!!! :-(
Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Blaming dems for Republican actions is pure ignorance.
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 6 months ago
ICE was created by the Homeland Security Act of 2002, which passed with overwhelming bipartisan support. 90-9 in the senate and 42 Yeas came from Dems.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 months ago
And how many from the republicans?
hector@lemmy.today 6 months ago
The Democratic Leadership knew the position we were in, yet they still refused to run a popular campaign offering any real reforms or attacking anyone increasingly gouging us and ran as the status quo while the Republicans ran as reform.
We all knew the voters did not know better. The responsibility is in the establishments corner. Three presidential shit shows in a row and they are brushing off the old Hillary Clinton excuses blaming voters as if that would justify letting them stay in control of the party.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Blaming dems for what republicans so is some mental gymnastics.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
It’s funny how one immigrant country is “securing homeland” from another immigrant country. At some point in the late XIX century US, Argentina, Brazil seemed similarly attractive directions for the “give me your tired …” thing.
I had two books called “anthology of romantic and adventure”, pretty much only centered around sea travel, it had both poetry of a fascist Russian white movement member who was a submariner and “Tamango” by Merimee and Vysotsky’s songs and Poe’s short horror stories and Melville’s “Benito Sereno” racist story, in general a pretty equal mix of radical views of life, honestly, both the good and the bad ones.
So - it’s mostly rather old stuff, as you might guess, and the image of all those overseas colonized lands is somehow similar and blended. Now you wouldn’t think that there’s much similarity between USA and Brazil and Argentina, LOL.
OK, I just got carried away. Perhaps that moment when your whole country started feeling “settled” is when the bad things started accumulating (other than lynchings of blacks and lobotomies of autists, I mean). And started feeling less of a union and more of one country.
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Not defending democrats here, but it says it was halted pending reviews. I would say at least the democrats have some sense of following rules, while under the Trump administration, these were immediately lifted.
Make of it what you will, but it’s pretty clear that following the laws/rules is a thing of the past in the US of A.
3abas@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They have theatrics, it would have ended up the same way if Biden/Harris won. Democrats (Biden) introduced it in the first place, and your instinct is still to believe they opposed it?
hector@lemmy.today 6 months ago
The establishment dems still think they are playing good cop to Republican bad cop in 1990, even as the Republicans are openly playing Hitler now. Without getting new popular reform minded leadership there is no way we can take the country from this aspiring one party state.