Comment on Children as young as 11 tempted to try betting after being ‘flooded’ by celebrity endorsement

• ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  But if someone doesn’t tell you it’s morally wrong to take advantage of fools/disturbed individuals that might be putting their whole life savings on red or black (and that you should only reap where you sow and not be greedy in general) and endangering not only themselves but also their families, how are we truly gonna convince someone in a to restrain themselves, specially if they’re in a position of comparative power?

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Morally wrong yes, sinful no.

    Frankly if someone used a religious framework to justify why something is good/bad it’s safe to say a lot of people will take away from it the exact opposite.

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      How do you have something being morally wrong without a religious framework

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      • Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Are you suggesting that all atheists are immoral?

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    • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think sinfulness and immorality are usually one and the same but perhaps you’re right and I’m overreaching. I’m happy with calling it morally wrong. 👍

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        No def not, most people I know and myself would be killed under any religious moral system because their entire existence is sin because that’s what’s written, but they’re some of the kindest, most humanist and sane people I’ve met, they just aren’t religious. Often they have individual moral frameworks that are some variation of the marxism-adjacent maximization of happiness/minimization of suffering or nietzchean fulfillment of potential.

        I also have no problem calling it sinful either if it’s a useful shorthand tbf, it’s just words after all.

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      • Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Sin is a religious construct, not an ethical one. One religion considers something a sin, another considers it a sacrament. Unless one is forcing compliance with a single specific religion at a state level it's not particularly useful.

        I'd argue that morality is also a construct but the distinguishing factor is that it is not tied to a specific religion and all the baggage associated with it (such as religion as identity, in-groups, that sort of thing).

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  • Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If someone needs to be told that because it isn't self evident to them then they aren't going to respond to someone simply telling them.

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