Many ISPs give you a publicly accessible IP address, and paying extra just reserves one IP instead of having it change periodically. If your ISP doesn’t do that (i.e. you’re stuck behind CGNAT like me), you’ll need to pay for one in some fashion.
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HelloRoot@lemy.lol 3 days agoBy “renting an IP” I mean paying a monthly subscription so that your internet service provider gives your home (which has your server) an IP so it is accessible through the intetnet. It doesn’t matter whether that IP is static or dynamic, as you said there are free dynamic dns services.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
HelloRoot@lemy.lol 3 days ago
I’ve never heard of an ISP that gives IPs for 0$. You get one through a subscribtion, so it is a rent.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
You pay for internet service, and some do that by providing leases on publicly accessible IPs, and some do that by providing internal IPs and routing things themselves. Some block specific incoming ports (often anything other than 80 and 443), whereas others block nothing. Most services offer an extra “static IP” service that gives you a fixed publicly accessible IP.
Source: I had the former for years and now I’m stuck with the latter.
HelloRoot@lemy.lol 3 days ago
I know all that and none of it contradicts what I said.
pirat@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I believe you only need to pay for a static IP. A dynamic IP would be the default option included, and should just work with a dynamic DNS service AFAIK. With a static IP, a dynamic DNS service should not be necessary.
HelloRoot@lemy.lol 3 days ago
Included in what? In a 0$ per month plan or in a x$ (x > 0) per month plan? If the plan is paid, you pay for what is included.
pirat@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Of course you have to pay for internet service to get the included defaults necessary for it to work. Just like you get a bowl/container when ordering hot soup from a restaurant, and just like a phone number is usually included in the price of telephone service – except that a dynamic IP is somewhat analogous to sharing that phone number with other customers, or sharing a bowl of soup with other customers.
My point is that a static IP is often a paid add-on while the dynamic IP is the included default, since you wouldn’t be able to use the internet service without some sort of IP address anyway.
metaStatic@kbin.earth 3 days ago
we ran out of IPv4 address space a long fucking time ago, you are infinity more likely to have a static IP address now because you'll be behind a carrier grade NAT sharing it's IP. you don't really pay for a static IP anymore but the ability to directly address you're own network.
HelloRoot@lemy.lol 3 days ago
and that is my point.
At the beginning there was the metaphor of being a landlord. Depending on your location in the world, you can buy land, pay nothing monthly and own and use it for ever.
There is basically no way to do that with a server. But while yall were being obtuse about my point that one needs to “pay rent” for an internet connection. I actually found something interesting that might be a way:
SIMO Solis Lite Mobile WLAN Router - 100$ one time purchase price. And they claim:
Of course that only works as long as the company exists and is profitable.