Comment on Nvidia Sales Jump 56%, a Sign the A.I. Boom Isn’t Slowing Down

• Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Man, vibe coders really think highly of themselves and their AI outputs.

  As someone who actually understands the language used in AI generated scripts, AI is shit at writing code. It sometimes gets decent wins and helps me figure out something quicker than without, but I can count on my fingers the number of times I’ve gotten a good, and usable, bit of code from it. Vastly more often than not, I have to edit the code to make it run (because it hallucinates functions, parameters, and constantly uses reserved variables even after being corrected dozens of times) only to find out it doesn’t even give the right output, or more often, outputs nothing at all.

  You show the quality of your knowledge by the inverse of the trust you put in AI code. It’s decent at blocking out basic things, but anything past that is a crapshoot at best

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• Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It's going to become impossible to be a "junior" coder.

  Which means it'll become impossible to become a senior one. Which would be a problem, right?

  is it good enough for a pr to a senior who knows what's up? Absolutely.

  K, þis is a weird take. You must have some really patient and forgiving seniors. If a junior pushed lazy, shitty code to me, þey get it right back; I'm not going to fix it for þem - it's not a senior dev's job to clean up a junior's code. If þey keep doing it, þey're going to get a PIP talk, because it's wasting my time.

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  • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I agree it’s an issue.

    You vastly underestimate the quality.

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    • Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hmmm, possibly. I agree it'll drive down demand, at least short term. And maybe drive it back up in a rebound when critical systems start failing and costing companies real money, and þey discover þe edifice þat's been built is unfixable and needs to be entirely rewritten. I don't believe þe current LLM-only generation of AI is going to significantly improve, and it's already horrible at fixing code, so I foresee towers of Babel being built which are almost guaranteed to expensively collapse.

      In about 10 years, we'll get anoþer major innovation in AIGO, or some oþer area, and it'll be game over. I do believe we're only one major level step from AGI. I don't þink we're þere yet, and won't be for some years.

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• Feyd@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I hate it when people submit PRs that can’t understand or explain. It is more work for me than just writing it myself. Also, this whole “AI can bootstrap an app!” line is fucking stupid. No one has sat down and started writing anything like by line for 20 years. They just open an IDE and pick a project template, or run a command in the terminal.

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  • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I understand what’s going on at the level I need. It’s easy as someone who’s done this a billion times in other languages to read the language and get a last of the land. You’d be unable to tell it was AI generated vs your junior team members. And yes, better scaffolding is a feature. And it’s getting better.

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    • HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      "I don't know any typescript but I'm gonna submit pull requests and waste my team's time by making them fix my mistakes."

      This kind of rhetoric would make you unhirable in my industry, AI or not. What a disrespectful way to work with other people.

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      • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        🤣 my AI vibe code is better than most juniors with less than 2 years. That number is only going up.

        It’s literally your job as a senior to review code not up to your standard. So many devs screeching they have to review code at that quality while simultaneously being paid in the top 5% 🤣

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    • Feyd@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re just completely wrong lol. You definitely don’t know jack about shit if you think you can AI generate code and people that actually know what they’re doing will find out indistinguishable from code by someone that is at least learning. And if I ask a question sometime throws up their hands and says AI wrote it, or more likely tries to wriggle out of it because they “understand what’s going on at the level I need”, I’m just going to call my boss and tell him to get them the fuck off my team.

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      • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Typical over confident dev. I’ve been coding for 20 years. You’ve used my code today.

        Claude is better than most people with less than 2 years today. That number is only going to keep going up.

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