Comment on YouTube secretly tested AI video enhancement without notifying creators

Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• subignition@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  "Secretly tested" meaning they didn't inform users when they started doing it. Y'know, like any experimental feature is called out and explained?
  I hope you're just having a bad day because this is some pretty rough reading comprehension

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  • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Both, bad day, but I stand by it. It’s not a secret if what you’re doing is immediately in public view.

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    • javiwhite@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If you give a letter to a postman, and the recipient asks why you put “P.S: I love you” on an official piece of documentation, your first thought wouldn’t be “that damn postman, opening my mail to try and enhance it”.

      The same is true for YouTube. People have been uploading videos for decades with them ending up on the platform the way they are uploaded, so it stands to reason that longtime users would expect this behaviour to continue, especially if there have been no Comms around any changes.

      Of course Google isn’t to be trusted, and anyone trusting YouTube to be ethical clearly isn’t paying attention to anything. But that doesn’t change the fact that youtube have intentionally hidden this change from their user base. Sure, the result was public facing, but the cause was kept secret; and that’s the nuance you’re overlooking.

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      • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        There’s definitely a middle ground somewhere between both of our perspectives. I didn’t write it out, but you did bring up a great point regarding them notoriously being a shitty company to the people they rely on for income as well as the people they exploit for endcome, the creators and viewers respectively.

        I mean on a very strict technicality, I suppose part of this is secretive, but I still think there’s a better word out there for it. There’s absolutely no way they thought they could alter many many videos and it not be caught. I don’t think their intent was secretive. It has the same feel as lying by omission. Not quite a lie but could technically be classified as one.

        I’m really tired, and I got to get to bed. If you’re willing to continue tomorrow I’d be down.

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      from knowledge OR view

      Hidden from view? No. Hidden from knowledge of it being done yes.

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    • falidorn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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• spongebue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Public now. Secretive at the time.

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  • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s a public facing platform.

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    • spongebue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      So by that logic, everything they do is public, whether they talk about it or not?

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      • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No. But the thing we’re talking about is. It’s a lot like farting in an elevator with just one other person and trying to convince them they did it. You both know who did it and what they did pretty quickly.

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    • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Your two braincells are misfiring, bud.

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• Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Do words not matter anymore when it comes to ‘journalism?’

  I think the better question for you is if you think words don’t have real definitions, and do they? What do ‘secretly’ or ‘publicly’ really mean?

  They didn’t secretly do anything. This was publicly.

  So I can steal from you without telling you, then when you find out, I can claim it was public knowledge because you found out after the fact?

  If it wasn’t, we wouldn’t fucking know would we?

  Yeah, finding out about something that was done without your knowledge or consent beforehand isn’t doing it secretly if you find out about it later!

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  • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It would be a lot like stealing from me while I’m looking directly at you on and we’re both on national television. That would be a way more accurate representation.

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