Comment on Is "AI" the end of truth?
Steve@communick.news 18 hours agoThe common definition of Truth is along the lines of “That which matches reality”.
It doesn’t matter what’s popular, or common knowledge. Sure humanity learns more about reality as time goes on. What people believe to be true changes. But that doesn’t mean what we believe is true. Something doesn’t become true because enough people believe it. Peoples beliefs simply get closer to the truth as more is learned about reality.
phonics@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
whos to define reality? was it not truth that the sun orbited the earth? reality is also the most popular theory. string theory could be truth. president names in epstein files could be truth. if someone doctors the list before it hits the courts, and its voted on as true, it becomes truth to society while not matching reality.
i think we are circling the same idea from different angles. kinda fun, thanks for the critical thinking sparring.
Steve@communick.news 10 hours ago
Nobody defines reality. We discover reality. Reality defines us.
Reality doesn’t care about any idea, hypothesis, or theory.
Reality is ignorant of courts, votes, or opinion.
Reality is what is, and we just make up stories that may or may not agree with reality. Makes no difference to reality.
phonics@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
so truth then would also be absolute? and not a human perception?
i feel like humans use truth more relatively. perhaps there should be distinctions between absolute truth and relative truth in the english language.
some people ‘believe’ aliens to be true. believe in a truth. you shouldnt have to believe a truth if it has no counterpoint. like if gravity is truth. you shouldn’t be able to believe in it. it should just happen to you.
Steve@communick.news 7 hours ago
They believe in an idea. They believe that idea is true.
In my experience, when people talk about some subjective Truth, they say things like “my truth” or “feels true”. They aren’t making a claim beyond their subjective perceptions. And while their perceptions are true, (meaning those perceptions happened to them), those perceptions aren’t necessarily an account of real external events. That’s how stage magic works. It looks like one thing, but what it looks like isn’t reality.
And saying you shouldn’t be able to believe in something because it’s real, sounds very strange. Maybe you mean, you shouldn’t need to believe in something because it’s real?