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WilloftheWest@feddit.uk 3 days agoYour argument hinges on the fact that it doesn’t appear on your receipt. Neither do any of the components of my M1 Macbook Pro other than the optional extras that I selected. By your logic I only paid for the itemised extras.
Your argument is essentially that any perks tied to a purchase aren’t factored into the cost, which is certainly a mindset that some people have and those people are the kinds of consumers that give marketers wet dreams.
A “free” perk that has the implicit requirement of buying into the company’s ecosystem - whether through a software subscription or purchasing proprietary hardware - is not free. You’ve already paid into the ecosystem and there is no additional cost.
floo@retrolemmy.com 3 days ago
No, it doesn’t. I was responding to your argument, putting out how it made no sense.
No, I’m not. others are arguing that it does affect the cost, however, no one has provided any evidence of this beyond speculation and guessing.
This is an opinion, not a fact. And it’s certainly not backed up by any evidence in this case.
It give me only reason you think I’m wrong is because you have no idea what I said.
WilloftheWest@feddit.uk 3 days ago
You know, if I made a statement and everyone responding disagreed with me or appeared to be misunderstanding me, I’d consider the quality of my own communication first before spending 24 hours telling everyone else that they’re wrong or failing to understand me. You’re the common factor in all these discussions.
floo@retrolemmy.com 3 days ago
A small group of Internet strangers here is far from “everyone”. And this is the argument from popularity logical fallacy. Just because an idea is popular doesn’t mean it’s correct.
And the objective factor means that macOS is free. There’s literally nothing anyone here can do to change that. And just because it hurts some people’s feelings, doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
WilloftheWest@feddit.uk 3 days ago
You’re right. All 8 billion people in the world aren’t telling you you’re wrong so it isn’t literally everyone. You’re the only person rejecting objective fact. People are quoting Apple’s license agreement. “nuh uh, free”. People are rebutting your top level “show me a receipt” comment. “I never mentioned receipts, you brought them up. Also nuh uh, free.” People are explaining the economics of perk systems. “No evidence that Apple applies this general economic theory to its business. Also nuh uh, free.”
You are evidently working with a definition of free that deviates from the commonly understood definition of the word, insofar that no one has yet agreed with you. You need to communicate better because what you are doing now isn’t working. Start by defining what you understand the word free to mean.