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interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 19 hours agoWhat CPU do you have made after 2004 that doesn’t have automatic temperature control ?
I don’t think there is any, unless you somehow managed to disable it ?
Even a raspberry pi without a heatsink won’t overheat to shutdown
poVoq@slrpnk.net 19 hours ago
You are right, it is actually worse, it usually just overloads the CPU so badly that it starts to throttle and then I can’t even access the server via SSH anymore. But sometimes it also crashes the server so that it reboots, and yes that can happen on modern CPUs as well.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 18 hours ago
You need to set you http serving process to a priority below the administrative processes (in the place where you are starting it, so assuming linux server that would be your init script or systemd service unit).
Actual crash causing reboot ? Do you have faulty ram maybe ? That’s really not ever supposed to happen from anything happenning in userland. That’s not AI, your stuff might be straight up broken.
Only thing that isn’t broken that could reboot a server is a watchdog timer.
You server shouldn’t crash, reboot or become unreachable from the admin interface even at 100% load and it shouldn’t overheat either, temperatures should never exceed 80C no matter what you do, it’s supposed to be impossible with thermal management, which all processors have had for decades.
poVoq@slrpnk.net 16 hours ago
Great that this is all theoretical 🤷 My server hardware might not be the newest but it is definitly not broken.
And besides, what good is that you can still barely access the server through ssh, when the cpu is constantly maxed out and site visitors only get a timeout when trying to access the services?
I don’t even get what you are trying to argue here. That the AI scraper DDOS isn’t so bad because in theory it shouldn’t crash the server? Are you even reading what you are writing yourself? 🤡
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
Why the hell don’t you limit the CPU usage of that service?
For any service that could hog resources so bad that they can block the entire system the normal thing to do is to limite their max resource usage. This is trivial to do using containers. I do it constantly for leaky software.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
Even if your server is a cell phone from 2015, if it’s operating correctly and the cpu is maxed out, that means it’s fully utilized and services hundreds of megabits of information.
You’ve decided to let the entire world read from your server, that indiscriminatory policy is letting people you don’t want getting your data, get your data and use your resources.
You want to correct that by making everyone that comes in solve a puzzle, therefore in some way degrading their access, it’s not surprising that they’re going to complain. The other day I had to wait over 30 second at an anubis puzzle page, when I know that the AI scrappers have no problem getting through, something on my computer, probably some anti-crypto mining protection is getting triggered by it and now I can’t no-script the web either because of that thing and it can’t even stop scrappers anyway !
So, anubis is going to be left behind, all the real users are, for years, going to be annoyed and have their entire internet degraded by it while the scrappers got that institutionally figured out in days.
If it’s freely available public data then the solution isn’t restricting access trying to play a futile arms race with the scrapper and throwing the real users to the dogs, it’s to have standardized incremental efficient database dumps so the scrappers stop assuming every website is interoperability-hostile and scrape them. Let facebook and xitter fight the scrappers, let anyone trying to leverage public (and especially user contributed data) fight the scrappers.