And regardless, how are parents that struggle to setup their email going to keep their kid from accessing porn? What would you have them do? Install a 3rd party software? Setup a local DNS filter? Prevent them from using devices that can access the internet? When it is as easy as googling “naked girl” how on earth are parents going to stop them from access it. The answer? The aren’t. There is nothing even the most diligent parent can do to stop them from accessing it while it is so readily accessible.
You haven’t demonstrated what harm comes from googling naked girl and seeing boobs.
If you want devices with parental control you will need to pay for them.
Devices like school computers already have such. This won’t stop a determined person from borrowing their friends phone and googling naked girl but that is a reasonable trade off honestly.
I don’t want to turn the entire Internet into 1984 so your kids doesn’t see boobs until he’s 18
You haven’t demonstrated what harm comes from googling naked girl and seeing boobs.
I cannot, since I am not a researcher. The research is out there though.
If you want devices with parental control you will need to pay for them.
If it is definitively negative, parents should not have to research, install, and pay for such restrictions onky to be easily avoided on another device.
I don’t want to turn the entire Internet into 1984 so your kids doesn’t see boobs until he’s 18
I don’t have kids. This about an entire generation and all future ones. Have you read 1984? While sueveillance is a part of it, it’s largely about authoritarianism and the control of reality itself. Being ID’d for a porn site is not that. 1984 is already happening, and the porn has nothing to do with it. Regardless, you have made no comment on the idea that I want it done with zero knowledge proof. The site would know nothing about you except you are over 18. There is absolutely nothing 1984 about that
Which country anywhere has ever implemented a zero knowledge proof of age rather than using a id or information trivially linkable to an id. The answer is none have none intend to and none will its a complete fabrication to cover actual reality.
The truth is out there is what people say about big foot, the flat earth, UFOs, and lizard people.
You have to pay monthly for devices that access the internet at all. It doesn’t seem unreasonable that YOU not everyone should have to pay for something that is safe for your 8 year old rather than just getting your 8 year old an Ipad and wifi. This forum isn’t safe for an 8 year old.
Regardless, you have made no comment on the idea that I want it done with zero knowledge proof.
Because there is no indication that that is ever going to happen. Either nothing with happen. A few hardcore porn sites will get age gating because they want to do legit business whilst others hosted in other countries will do nothing ensuring your teen still finds boobs when he searches OR we will go full on 1984 and this will mostly be used to suppress the entire free and open internet in the US.
Your fantasy that this will be done safely is just an indication that you are stupid.
That’s what people said when they took away cigarette vending machines. Why should adults have to suffer because other people can’t control their children
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What about the devices you don’t own?
And regardless, how are parents that struggle to setup their email going to keep their kid from accessing porn? What would you have them do? Install a 3rd party software? Setup a local DNS filter? Prevent them from using devices that can access the internet? When it is as easy as googling “naked girl” how on earth are parents going to stop them from access it. The answer? The aren’t. There is nothing even the most diligent parent can do to stop them from accessing it while it is so readily accessible.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You haven’t demonstrated what harm comes from googling naked girl and seeing boobs.
If you want devices with parental control you will need to pay for them.
Devices like school computers already have such. This won’t stop a determined person from borrowing their friends phone and googling naked girl but that is a reasonable trade off honestly.
I don’t want to turn the entire Internet into 1984 so your kids doesn’t see boobs until he’s 18
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I cannot, since I am not a researcher. The research is out there though.
If it is definitively negative, parents should not have to research, install, and pay for such restrictions onky to be easily avoided on another device.
I don’t have kids. This about an entire generation and all future ones. Have you read 1984? While sueveillance is a part of it, it’s largely about authoritarianism and the control of reality itself. Being ID’d for a porn site is not that. 1984 is already happening, and the porn has nothing to do with it. Regardless, you have made no comment on the idea that I want it done with zero knowledge proof. The site would know nothing about you except you are over 18. There is absolutely nothing 1984 about that
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Which country anywhere has ever implemented a zero knowledge proof of age rather than using a id or information trivially linkable to an id. The answer is none have none intend to and none will its a complete fabrication to cover actual reality.
Nor is it liable to be limited to outright porno.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The truth is out there is what people say about big foot, the flat earth, UFOs, and lizard people.
You have to pay monthly for devices that access the internet at all. It doesn’t seem unreasonable that YOU not everyone should have to pay for something that is safe for your 8 year old rather than just getting your 8 year old an Ipad and wifi. This forum isn’t safe for an 8 year old.
Because there is no indication that that is ever going to happen. Either nothing with happen. A few hardcore porn sites will get age gating because they want to do legit business whilst others hosted in other countries will do nothing ensuring your teen still finds boobs when he searches OR we will go full on 1984 and this will mostly be used to suppress the entire free and open internet in the US.
Your fantasy that this will be done safely is just an indication that you are stupid.
socsa@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
Literally none of this is my problem. I do not give two shits what other people's children do on the Internet.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s what people said when they took away cigarette vending machines. Why should adults have to suffer because other people can’t control their children
socsa@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
Those people were correct.