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FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Additionally all labor is skilled labor.

No, it’s not. When people use the term “unskilled” for jobs it doesn’t mean “you literally have to have zero skills, not even the ability to user your hands, to do it” - it means you only need a limited skill set and is a job that has minimal economic value. Essentially it’s a job that anyone at any stage could walk into and be able to do.

That has always been how the skilled/unskilled labor gap has been broken up. You might not like it, but that’s what it means. There is nothing about a server’s role that makes it a “skilled” job that requires highly specialized skills that someone would have to go and get qualifications and study for. It’s taking orders and carrying the orders out to people when someone else, often a skilled laborer like a chef for example, prepares them. Asking for drink orders and if everything is ok with the meal is not “skilled labor”.

Anyway, all labor deserves a living wage. If you work a full week you should be able to support yourself comfortably.

Agreed 100%. Unfortunately COVID (and everything since, like the “renewable energy” push) and most countries’ governments absolutely moronic handling of it has completely destroyed any hopes of this.

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arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

No, it’s not. When people use the term “unskilled” for jobs it doesn’t mean “you literally have to have zero skills, not even the ability to user your hands, to do it” - it means you only need a limited skill set and is a job that has minimal economic value. Essentially it’s a job that anyone at any stage could walk into and be able to do with minimal training.

That has always been how the skilled/unskilled labor gap has been broken up.

You’ve bought the lie they’ve been telling forever. Every person that goes to work is performing skilled labor. The only thing we do that doesn’t take any skill is being born rich.

Rich assholes that do nothing other than “invest” into a buisness. Every dime made from there is off the backs of working folks. Without our skills the wealthy would be poor.

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- FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  You’ve bought the lie they’ve been telling forever.
  
  I haven’t bought any lie, I’m telling you the definitions of skilled/unskilled labor that have been in use forever.
  
  Every person that goes to work is performing skilled labor. The only thing a person can do that doesn’t take any skill is being born rich.
  
  Ok so your idea of skill is simply…not dropping dead. Gotcha.
  
  No matter what you want to think, serving tables is one of the easiest and least-skilled jobs in the world. It’s why literal kids do it, it’s why it’s paid less than minimum wage, and it’s why it’s a last resort for many of the people who do it.
  
  Let me ask you this -do you think that investing is a skill? Choosing what to invest in and when and how much?
  
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  - Faildini@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I guarantee this person has never waited tables.
    
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    arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I have my doubts on if they’ve ever worked a job.
    
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    FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    So do you think it’s not a job that anyone can learn with an hour or 2 training? You think it’s a specialized skill?
    
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