I’m an American and I hate tipping culture. I don’t believe your solution to getting rid of tipping culture is viable. I think we collectively as a culture would need to agree not to tip, which isn’t going to happen. A much easier way would be through legislation and forcing employers to pay fair wages. I don’t think customers would be inclined to tip someone making a fair wage. If this thread and hundreds like them on Lemmy and Reddit are any indication, people are generally guilted into tipping because wait staff makes $2/hour or whatever in the states.
I think we collectively as a culture would need to agree not to tip
That’s what I’m saying.
which isn’t going to happen.
Not with that attitude it won’t!
A much easier way would be through legislation and forcing employers to pay fair wages.
Then you get into the other massive issues - define “fair”. Who defines what is a fair wage? Is it just minimum wage enforcement? If you raise the minimum wage for servers then you have to raise it almost everywhere else, which will fuel massive inflation and job losses.
I don’t think customers would be inclined to tip someone making a fair wage.
But when you tip you have no idea what the servers wage is.
Also as someone else pointed out in here, some states tried to get rid of tipping by raising the minimum wage of these servers and they complained so much the government abandoned it.
Sorry, I should have said living wage. Like what an actual minimum wage should be, calculated based on the average cost of basic necessities. (Food, housing etc…) With geography included. Pretty basic stuff. Like how the minimum wage in CA is 16.50$?
Of course some servers would be upset - if you’re valet or a server at a fine dining restaurant you’re making significantly more than a server at a working class chain for doing essentially the same job. That’s dumb. Also, I’d posit there are a lot more people against tips than for tips, which makes legislation a possibility.
How/why would inflation be out of control? The cooks don’t get tips, the managers don’t get tips, the dishwashers don’t get tips. They’re paid a wage. Some restaurants in the US already do this. I have one near me.
I do know what the server’s wage is where I live - It’s $2.83/hour, with a maximum tip cover of $4.42 to bring to minimum wage, which isn’t even close to a liveable wage, since minimum wage hasn’t been adjusted since '09 and it was too low then. Plus they have no health insurance or other benefits (average cost is $9k for solo/$25k for families).
I’m not inclined to tip when I visit Spain, Portugal, Hungary, Switzerland, Denmark etc… because their servers make liveable wages and they have healthcare and other benefits provided by their governments.
WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m an American and I hate tipping culture. I don’t believe your solution to getting rid of tipping culture is viable. I think we collectively as a culture would need to agree not to tip, which isn’t going to happen. A much easier way would be through legislation and forcing employers to pay fair wages. I don’t think customers would be inclined to tip someone making a fair wage. If this thread and hundreds like them on Lemmy and Reddit are any indication, people are generally guilted into tipping because wait staff makes $2/hour or whatever in the states.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
That’s what I’m saying.
Not with that attitude it won’t!
Then you get into the other massive issues - define “fair”. Who defines what is a fair wage? Is it just minimum wage enforcement? If you raise the minimum wage for servers then you have to raise it almost everywhere else, which will fuel massive inflation and job losses.
But when you tip you have no idea what the servers wage is.
Also as someone else pointed out in here, some states tried to get rid of tipping by raising the minimum wage of these servers and they complained so much the government abandoned it.
WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Sorry, I should have said living wage. Like what an actual minimum wage should be, calculated based on the average cost of basic necessities. (Food, housing etc…) With geography included. Pretty basic stuff. Like how the minimum wage in CA is 16.50$? Of course some servers would be upset - if you’re valet or a server at a fine dining restaurant you’re making significantly more than a server at a working class chain for doing essentially the same job. That’s dumb. Also, I’d posit there are a lot more people against tips than for tips, which makes legislation a possibility.
How/why would inflation be out of control? The cooks don’t get tips, the managers don’t get tips, the dishwashers don’t get tips. They’re paid a wage. Some restaurants in the US already do this. I have one near me.
I do know what the server’s wage is where I live - It’s $2.83/hour, with a maximum tip cover of $4.42 to bring to minimum wage, which isn’t even close to a liveable wage, since minimum wage hasn’t been adjusted since '09 and it was too low then. Plus they have no health insurance or other benefits (average cost is $9k for solo/$25k for families).
I’m not inclined to tip when I visit Spain, Portugal, Hungary, Switzerland, Denmark etc… because their servers make liveable wages and they have healthcare and other benefits provided by their governments.