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HorreC@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You’re trippin’. You’ve gotten every detail wrong. It would be hard to be more wrong. Killing ≠ sacrificing. It never specifically mentions being asked, much less for what they “loved most”. It’s not just “people down here blaming Cain”, Cain lied about murdering his brother and God cursed him. If God viewed Cain murdering Abel as a sacrifice, why would he curse him?

  4 The man knew[a] Eve his wife. She conceived,[b] and gave birth to Cain, and said, “I have gotten a man with Yahweh’s help.” 2 Again she gave birth, to Cain’s brother Abel. Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3 As time passed, Cain brought an offering to Yahweh from the fruit of the ground. 4 Abel also brought some of the firstborn of his flock and of its fat. Yahweh respected Abel and his offering, 5 but he didn’t respect Cain and his offering. Cain was very angry, and the expression on his face fell. 6 Yahweh said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why has the expression of your face fallen? 7 If you do well, won’t it be lifted up? If you don’t do well, sin crouches at the door. Its desire is for you, but you are to rule over it.” 8 Cain said to Abel, his brother, “Let’s go into the field.” While they were in the field, Cain rose up against Abel, his brother, and killed him.

  9 Yahweh said to Cain, “Where is Abel, your brother?”

  He said, “I don’t know. Am I my brother’s keeper?”

  10 Yahweh said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood cries to me from the ground. 11 Now you are cursed because of the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 From now on, when you till the ground, it won’t yield its strength to you. You will be a fugitive and a wanderer in the earth.”

  Genesis 4:1-12 WEB translation (public domain).

  Are you getting some pop culture version of this story mixed up with the biblical story?

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  • tal@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cain was asked BY A GOD to kill (sacrifice) the thing he loved the most, he did it.

    You’re trippin’. You’ve gotten every detail wrong. It would be hard to be more wrong. Killing ≠ sacrificing. It never specifically mentions being asked, much less for what they “loved most”. It’s not just “people down here blaming Cain”, Cain lied about murdering his brother and God cursed him. If God viewed Cain murdering Abel as a sacrifice, why would he curse him?

    He’s probably thinking of Abraham trying to sacrifice his son on Yahweh’s orders, a couple chapters later.

    Genesis 22:1–12

    Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”

    “Here I am,” he replied.

    Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.”

    Early the next morning Abraham got up and loaded his donkey. He took with him two of his servants and his son Isaac. When he had cut enough wood for the burnt offering, he set out for the place God had told him about. On the third day Abraham looked up and saw the place in the distance. He said to his servants, “Stay here with the donkey while I and the boy go over there. We will worship and then we will come back to you.”

    Abraham took the wood for the burnt offering and placed it on his son Isaac, and he himself carried the fire and the knife. As the two of them went on together, Isaac spoke up and said to his father Abraham, “Father?”

    “Yes, my son?” Abraham replied.

    “The fire and wood are here,” Isaac said, “but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?”

    Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” And the two of them went on together.

    When they reached the place God had told him about, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. Then he reached out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. But the angel of the Lord called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”

    “Here I am,” he replied.

    “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Uh… No? They were both tasked with offering a sacrifice and while Abel sacrificed his best bull, Cain just burned some twigs or something. God gave Abel his favor, which unfuriated Cain so he killed Abel.

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• lunarul@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What version of the Bible did you get that from? Cain killed Abel out of jealousy, nobody asked him to sacrifice anything other than the occasional farm animal.

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