Comment on Stop the free ride: all motorists should pay their way, whatever vehicle they drive

• Hirom@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The article has some suggestions

  The payment should be based on a combination of vehicle mass and distance travelled. That’s because damage to roads is overwhelmingly caused by heavy vehicles.

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  • Geobloke@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    My biggest problem with that is the distance; either the licencing authority has access to our cars position or we self report it. Neither are great options in my opinion

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    • HalfEarthMedic@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I wondered about this also, FWIW my solution would be self reporting verified at the time of vehicle sale or end of vehicle life. I believe some states require periodic roadworthy checks which would also be an opportunity for verification.

      Real time vehicle tracking is obviously unacceptable.

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    • No1@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It could be reported each time the car is serviced or at registration time. Seems to happen in the US like that - mainly as a disincentive to winding back the odo.

      If people misreport it, it would be caught when they try to sell the vehicle. Eg, if I report 5K per year, but actually do 20K, then if I try to sell it in 5 years time, and it shows 25K on the Registration info, but 100K on the odo, then I’m not buying that car lol

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      • Geobloke@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Good point, I hadn’t thought of a car rego declaration. Servicing seems like not the best idea as it would make life harder for poor people, who might stretch out servicing and would probably do it more if there was an additional cost at that point.

        I’m scared that continually tracking your car will be the default option though. Best argument against it is to argue that it would put victims of domestic violence at further risk

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    • Hirom@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Have you heard of toolbooths?

      There are variations that require neither self reporting nor tracking cars. Grab a ticket uppon entering the highway. Feed the ticket in the exit booth and pay with cash or credit card. The machine uses the ticket to compte the distance.

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      • Geobloke@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Well yeah, but most of my driving is around the suburbs or the small country roads near my house, no complaints I guess, but i wouldn’t be paying my fair share of road use.

        Plus to cover the full road network seems like a huge expense. I mean you could fund it using a carbon tax, but I feel like paying for tollboths is not good bang for buck in carbon abatement

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