Comment on AI experts return from China stunned: The U.S. grid is so weak, the race may already be over

• Saledovil@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Maybe. Could also be that humans never invent anything that comes close to a biological brain. Either because we simply aren’t smart enough, or because civilization regresses before we get there. And there’s several trends going on currently which could cause civilization to regress. For example, climate change and declining birth rates (While we could set up an economic system that can deal with a shrinking and aging population, our current one cannot).

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  • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Fasciam and religion are bigger threats than ‘declining birth rate’, that one’s just billionaire propaganda. Stop repeating it.

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    • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So, why are declining birth rates not a problem?

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      • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Why are they? Fewer people, fewer mouths to feed, more value on labor, more natural resources and real estate for the rest of us.

        We cant grow forever. Dropping total population in the most ethical way then keeping things steady seems like the most nonviolent cool way to do this.

        Tor fucks sake there’s like ten billion people we could keep everything we need going, easily, with half that.

        Anf imagibe if we actually valuee people instead of treating them like disposable garbage to throw away in poverty and wars! Wouldn’t that be cool?

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  • khaleer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Wait, since when population is shrinking? And since when it’s a bad thing too?

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    • bss03@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I don’t think it is shrinking globally, yet. But, some countries (e.g. South Korea) are in dire situations due to shrinking and aging population already.

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      • khaleer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        But it’s mostly caused by social issues, imo it is nowhere near being a real problem

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      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Might be bad now but it leads to a better future. Infinite growth was always impossible, this is just the result of decades of mismanagement.

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    • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s not shrinking yet, the birth rate is declining, and the world population is projected to start declining 2050.

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    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Technically there should be a ratio of young to old to take care of all of the elderly, but IMO fuck’em it wasn’t the young’s choice to be born and suffer for the sake of the old.

      Lower population will make resource allocation easier and improve quality of life, and obviously is necessary to prevent further environmental damage. There will be momentary suffering for a brighter future.

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• sexy_peach@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  How so?

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Other algorithms and combination architectures will be invented/rediscovered.

    Now AI has relationships between tokens. AGI needs concepts to be related, amongst other things.

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    • sexy_peach@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I doubt that for the foreseeable future. Llms aren’t new at all the scientific space is old it’s just now popping up because they can do a lot with enormous data sets

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Transformers were the kick-start for this generation of AI. Given the flood of money and brains into the area there will be more innovation.

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