Funny, because the Beetle was very reliable and durable here in Europe, both in cold Scandinavian countries, and hot south European countries. And here they were everywhere even 2 decades after production stopped. Very very durable and reliable cars for its time. Also beating way more expensive cars.
What they were not was well equipped with extras, or fast or powerful or particularly comfortable to drive, and they were also noisy.
But to say they weren’t reliable???
Did USA get some sort of second rate Beetle cars compared to Europe? Here we called it the asphalt bubble. I even have a neighbor who owns a late 70’s beetle, which still drives absolutely fine! Still with minimal maintenance!
It really depends on the year. But generally speaking, even the bad year beetles were fine since parts were available, they just didn’t quite compare to Toyotas.
The thing about the early VWs, like the Beetle, was they couldn’t pass the updated safety standards the US passed in the early '70s: safety glass, reinforced cabin, etc.
Yes, but that doesn’t make the car unreliable.
Also funny story is that car safety is abhorrent in USA today compared to Europe. Especially with American pickup trucks.
USA was absolutely in the front on research on for instance seat belts, but Europe made them mandatory to have and wear first, because in USA it was delayed because they were afraid it would slow down car sales! (AFAIK)
Crash tests were expensive, so I bet that started in USA first too, because American car companies had way more money than in Europe.Still how did the Cybertruck pass? We’ve seen the crash test of that, and it’s an absolute killer car for the driver in a crash. A broken neck is almost guaranteed!
There is no way Cyber Truck would pass car safety standards in Europe!
That may all be true. I think companies are now relying on airbags to do a lot of the legwork in crashes nowadays. but the talk was of reliability not safety
Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Funny, because the Beetle was very reliable and durable here in Europe, both in cold Scandinavian countries, and hot south European countries. And here they were everywhere even 2 decades after production stopped. Very very durable and reliable cars for its time. Also beating way more expensive cars.
What they were not was well equipped with extras, or fast or powerful or particularly comfortable to drive, and they were also noisy.
But to say they weren’t reliable???
Did USA get some sort of second rate Beetle cars compared to Europe? Here we called it the asphalt bubble. I even have a neighbor who owns a late 70’s beetle, which still drives absolutely fine! Still with minimal maintenance!
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It really depends on the year. But generally speaking, even the bad year beetles were fine since parts were available, they just didn’t quite compare to Toyotas.
raef@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The thing about the early VWs, like the Beetle, was they couldn’t pass the updated safety standards the US passed in the early '70s: safety glass, reinforced cabin, etc.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes, but that doesn’t make the car unreliable.
Also funny story is that car safety is abhorrent in USA today compared to Europe. Especially with American pickup trucks.
USA was absolutely in the front on research on for instance seat belts, but Europe made them mandatory to have and wear first, because in USA it was delayed because they were afraid it would slow down car sales! (AFAIK)
Crash tests were expensive, so I bet that started in USA first too, because American car companies had way more money than in Europe.Still how did the Cybertruck pass? We’ve seen the crash test of that, and it’s an absolute killer car for the driver in a crash. A broken neck is almost guaranteed!
There is no way Cyber Truck would pass car safety standards in Europe!
raef@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That may all be true. I think companies are now relying on airbags to do a lot of the legwork in crashes nowadays. but the talk was of reliability not safety