I wonder if it’s inevitable that anywhere with enough humans working together will reach this point eventually?
atticus88th@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m kind of LMAO because of course those places have turned into that. Look who runs them and look at the execs running it. These are not college grads literally living there and need to unwind while at work.
A lot of software companies especially the new ones who want young talent are running exactly the same as startups were 20 years ago just a lot more flashy and newer toys.
onion_dude@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Devmapall@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
When money and power are funneled to the few then yes. Something more cooperative or democratic probably wouldn’t have the same intensity of the problem.
I think it’s only inevitable because of how our society is structured.
stoly@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No, not really. Where I work now is fantastic and we have great leadership. The moment your original visionary leader leaves and someone with an MBA gets in their place, it all goes to shit. This is LITERALLY what happened to Google and to Apple. Both super dynamic companies with great culture who were then gutted to generate shareholder value.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
From what I’ve seen it starts with a few people who abuse the niceties, or the first downturn, or both, and suddenly they’ve got an excuse to strip it all back.
It’s always one or the other that starts it. You have an office game console and someone brings their kids who spill pop on it or they take the games home. You get that guy who takes a box of snacks home and the CEO complains for like 2 years about it. You get someone who orders pay per view on a business trip. Etc.
Once you get to like 300 employees this threshold starts getting reliably exceeded.
DireTech@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Since when is a 300 person company a startup? I feel like you lose any claim to that long before you hit 100.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
Yeah, but that’s the size where things definitely start dying.
50 is probably my ideal company size.
stoly@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I worked for one of those 20 year startups. It was awful. Basically there was no drive, no vision. The entire place was a lot of faff and only existed to give bonuses to leadership. All of the interesting and motivated employees moved on long ago leaving only the mediocre types who play political games and favorites. I needed A job and took it when offered, but took the next job as soon as I could get out. I watched many others cycle through, some a lot faster than I did (I was waiting for a specific position to open).