I mean, AI is using like 1-2% of human energy and that’s fucking wild.
My take away is we need more clean energy generation. Good things we’ve got countries like China leading the way in nuclear and renewables!!
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cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
So like, is this whole AI bubble being funded directly by the fossil fuel industry or something? Because the AI training and the instantaneous global adoption of them is using energy like it’s going out of style. Which fossil fuels actually are (going out of style, and being used to power these data centers). Could there be a link? Gotta find a way to burn all the rest of the oil and gas we can get out of the ground before laws make it illegal. Makes sense, in their traditional who gives a fuck about the climate and environment sort of way, doesn’t it?
BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Yes, China is producing a lot of solar panels (a good thing!) but the percentage of renewables is actually going down. They are adding coal faster than solar.
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
All I know is that I’m getting real tired of this Matrix / Idiocracy Mash-up Movie we’re living in.
Womble@piefed.world 13 hours ago
Do you have a source for that? Because given a chatgpt query takes a similar amount of energy to running a hair dryer for a few seconds i find it hard to believe.
rimu@piefed.social 13 hours ago
a similar amount of energy to running a hair dryer
We see a lot of those kinds of comparisons. Thing is, you run a hair dryer once per day at most. Or it's compared to a google search, often. Again, most people will do a handful of searches each day. A ChatGPT conversation can be hundreds of messages back and forth. A Claude Code session can go for hours and involve millions of tokens. An individual AI inference might be pretty tame but the quantity of them is another level.
If it was so efficient then they wouldn't be building Manhatten-sized datacenters.
Womble@piefed.world 12 hours ago
ok, but running a hairdryer for 5 minutes is well up into the hundreds of queries which is more than the vast majority of people will use in a week. The OP was talking about it being 1-2% of energy usage, so that include transport heating and heavy industry. It just doesnt pass the smell test to me that something where a weeks worth of usage is exceeded by a person drying their hair once is comparable with such vast users of energy.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
its like crypto, they wanted to make money of VC funds, and thats probably running dry right now, and the investors are probably going to demand returns very soon. why do you think the massive layoffs started in 2023.