That'd be... nice... but no. When it come to homophobia, people hate what they don't understand and then come up with reasons to justify it, not the other way around.
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queermunist@lemmy.ml â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠agoI wonder if the West having this new wave of anti-queer reaction will short-circuit this cycle. Hard to claim we are agents of neocolonialism and imperialism when the US is attacking trans people and is on the cusp of rolling back gay marriage rights.
BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
queermunist@lemmy.ml â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Misanthropy tbh
Hate has a material basis, itâs not just something that emerges organically from human nature. The ruling class needs to maximize the reproduction of labor so it invented and promoted queer hate as a way to remove one of those obstacles. Its material basis is actually very similar to anti-abortion and anti-contraception and anti-feminist politics.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Maybe, but they view their religion as native, not foreign. And those have built in homophobia in the doctrine.
queermunist@lemmy.ml â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Doctrine and religion are always changing based on historical forces, so if the historical winds are blowing against âlgbt=colonialismâ then this will have effects on religion and doctrine. The contradiction will need to be resolved somehow.
IndiBrony@lemmy.world â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Contradiction with religious folk is often boiled down to âif I donât believe the contradiction exists then it must not exist!â
Source: whenever anyone brings up contradictions in the Bible
queermunist@lemmy.ml â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Iâm talking about contradictions that can arise between religion and politics.
If their religion says to be charitable to the poor, but their politics say to starve the poor, theyâll starve the poor. If their religion says to love their neighbor, but their politics tells them to hate their neighbor, theyâll hate their neighbor. When thereâs a contradiction between religion and politics, theyâll choose politics and then work backwards from their to justify it religiously.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
I get what your saying, but Iâm adding that even independently of that they follow abrahamic religions and that is homophobic. On one hand there is a niew of neo colonialism and on the other you might be asking them to be more secular. Both are very steep and somewhat independent hills.
queermunist@lemmy.ml â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Abrahamic religion isnât set in stone, itâs capable of reform and has even done so in other historical contexts. This doesnât even require secularism, all it requires is that they read their books in a different way for different interpretations.
But secularism isnât impossible. As the colonizers become less secular and more religious, the historical currents begin to push against religion among the colonized. Less so among Muslims because they can deflect the contradictions onto sectarianism, but African Christians will have to reconcile the contradiction between their anti-colonialism and worshiping the god of religious colonizers.
There are lots of ways this can play out.