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• Korne127@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Viewing accepting and supporting people that are different as (neo-)colonialism is just dumb. They deserve to be seen as equal and live a happy life there as much as anywhere else. Being African doesn’t excuse you for being an asshole.

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• Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Alright, I’ll admit this is a plan for a story I’m writing to help define who the bad guys are:

  They hate the neighboring country, and homosexuality. They use puritanical thinking to frame the latter as an evil invention of the former; “The men there are so fowl and heartless, they hate all forms of femininity, and prefer to bond with other demons like themselves. The women feel forced to find love with each other.”

  I’m starting to get curious if any one particular country might feel offended at my story when I someday write it.

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  • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Doesn’t feel like a specific call out.

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• burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Funny that you bring that up. Most of Africa and West Asia got colonized when Victorian England was at its prudest point. They "civilized“ the “savages” and taught them their Victorian moral values. This has a lasting influence until today. While you consider yourself civilized and educated and those others are the backwards ideas, in reality while your ancestors were living off their wealth they had the capacity to think about luxury like human rights (I’m sorry, it shouldn’t be a luxury, but it is), while the colonized were busy trying to survive.

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  • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    while the colonized were busy trying to survive.

    Still are

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• queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I wonder if the West having this new wave of anti-queer reaction will short-circuit this cycle. Hard to claim we are agents of neocolonialism and imperialism when the US is attacking trans people and is on the cusp of rolling back gay marriage rights.

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  • BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That'd be... nice... but no. When it come to homophobia, people hate what they don't understand and then come up with reasons to justify it, not the other way around.

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    • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Misanthropy tbh

      Hate has a material basis, it’s not just something that emerges organically from human nature. The ruling class needs to maximize the reproduction of labor so it invented and promoted queer hate as a way to remove one of those obstacles. Its material basis is actually very similar to anti-abortion and anti-contraception and anti-feminist politics.

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  • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe, but they view their religion as native, not foreign. And those have built in homophobia in the doctrine.

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    • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Doctrine and religion are always changing based on historical forces, so if the historical winds are blowing against “lgbt=colonialism” then this will have effects on religion and doctrine. The contradiction will need to be resolved somehow.

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      • IndiBrony@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Contradiction with religious folk is often boiled down to “if I don’t believe the contradiction exists then it must not exist!”

        Source: whenever anyone brings up contradictions in the Bible

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      • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I get what your saying, but I’m adding that even independently of that they follow abrahamic religions and that is homophobic. On one hand there is a niew of neo colonialism and on the other you might be asking them to be more secular. Both are very steep and somewhat independent hills.

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