Comment on (Possibly) Underage People can’t join Monero.town? [Age Verification / KYC]

jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• monerobull@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A shame since it got a ton of engagement.

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  • Saki@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It would have been exciting if he commented like “I think it’s working now.” then “I got my first xmr!” Vivid documentation from the point of the view of a first-time miner…

    Also, while @mylikes@stranger.social may have been a troll, they happened to ask a good question: Why does anyone want to use a Tor exit node in a specific country? Apparently the OP deleted the post before anyone answers that question.

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    • mylikes@stranger.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      @Saki @monerobull Okay Answer that, I'm curious now because of you, why specific country?

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      • Saki@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The kid needs 5 € to get VPN. Mining xmr for that is inefficient. A logical question to ask (before explaining how to mine) is: do you really need VPN to begin with? Can’t you use a no-charge option instead? That’s why I asked that.

        ExitNodes in torrc is a well-documented, official option of Tor, not a “hack”. You’re right, one should not use it unless really necessary. Example: you’re on Tor buying a digital gift card from proxystore with xmr; they ask your country; if you’re a EU citizen, you might want to say non-EU. When you do that, common sense dictates it’s better if your exit node is not in the EU, say in the US. When you redeem your “American” gift card, again you may want to play it safe and consistently use a US exit node in case they GeoIP you. When you’re done, you delete the ExitNodes & StrictNodes directives. Just one example.

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    • mylikes@stranger.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      @Saki @monerobull Huh? You mean me?
      I didn't delete anything, more likely I removed duplicated post.

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      • Saki@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No, the original poster (the kid) deleted the whole thing—his post with all the comments (including yours) to it. Anyone is free to delete their own post(s) and/or comment(s) anytime.

        He could have just created a new temp account anonymously e.g. via Tails, instead of using his “real” (main) one, using a random, generic instance & nick, and asked questions more vaguely, like “Do I need to share any of my personal info to mine Moneo, like name, phone number, DOB, or something like that?” Then no one would have known anything about him, perhaps better for him that way for protecting secrecy. Just a thought…

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• Saki@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I see. Thank you.

  Hypothetically, what would happen if someone explicitly said, “I am underage child. I want to mine Monero. How can I do that?” Would it be allowed to try to help them?

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  • admin@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Only illegal or completely unrelated (spam/scam advertising) content will be deleted by me (mods can however do as they please in their respective communities). So far there hasn’t really been any need for moderating and I’d love it to stay that way.

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    • Saki@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thank you for clarification.

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  • shortwavesurfer@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not an admin but i see no reason why not. Are children entitled to information, imo yes. They just like any other person have a choice of what to do with that information.

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    • Saki@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, basically. We’ve got to handle things delicately, though, to avoid any misunderstanding.

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  • jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    it feels like a trap. I’m not sure of the laws on minor activities, but anyone saying “i’m a vulnerable and protected class, teach me how to do something controversial”… gives me pause (yes monero is controversial in some circles)

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    • naphtha@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      yes monero is controversial in some circles

      and? you care too much about what other people think when in reality it doesn’t matter, at all

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    • Saki@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A good point. I think most people assume cryptocurrencies = bad/scam, and they’re mostly right too. In this specific case, the OP didn’t say anything explicitly; he was looking for a way to mine xmr without age verification (so it was an easy guess that perhaps he’s a kid, but the situation was ambiguous).

      I’d like to believe he’s so smart that as soon as he got all the info he needs he deleted everything (a nice move). But it’s possible that he felt unwelcome and upset, as a troll called him “freeloader” (re: mining w/ gratis electricity). Whatever. Freedom to delete your own post is important, and I’m happy to know that at least it’s not an admin who deleted it.

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      • jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There’s a lot of really negative opinions expressed on Lemmy. It’s not exactly the most welcoming community. 90% welcoming 10% fuck you. So if you’re not ready for it it’s a little rough

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