Comment on Apart, low in cholesterine

Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Dissolved hydrogen is effectively acidifying it, no? That would be chugging fizzing acid. Must’ve been fun.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    You get carbonic acid when carbonating water and some people like that taste, for some reason 🤷‍♂️

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      You get carbonic acid when carbonating water and some people like that taste, for some reason 🤷‍♂️

      I’m one of those people but I couldn’t tell you why either. I just like sour, I guess.

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    • icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Carbonic acid is a weak acid, so the acidity isn’t as strong. Most the protons are bound in carbonic acid. Whereas in dissolved hydrogen, all the hydrogen molecules are necessarily ionized, giving what should be an acid quite some orders stronger.

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      • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Chemistry teacher here. No way do those hydrogen molecules ionize. If they ionize, that would require making the entire solution positively charged, or filled with singlet hydrogen. Just like dissolving oxygen of nitrogen in water, the gas will dissolve, but not dissociate.

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  • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Chemistry teacher here! Hydrogen would only acidify it if it dissociated. Much like how you can dissolve oxygen or nitrogen gas into water, any gas can be dissolved into water. They don’t break apart, they just float as molecules inside the water. It’s just like when sugar dissolves. Salt breaks apart, because it’s ionic. Sugar, most organics, and diatomic gases like H~2~, N~2~, and O~2~ don’t have enough affinity with the water molecules to dissociate (or, at least, not sufficient to dissociate appreciably)

    When you get something gnarly is if you have a molecule containing something that does have stronger affinity with the water. Carbon Dioxide, Sulfur Di- and Trioxide, Nitrogen Oxides, and other oxygen-bearing covalent gases react with water because the central atoms attract the oxygen in the H~2~O, while the oxygens surrounding them have partial negative charges from the unpaired electrons, attracting the hydrogens in the water. This causes the water to be ripped apart, creates oxyanions such as CO~3~^2-^, SO~3~^2-^, SO~4~^2-^, NO~2~^-^, or NO~3~^-^. Same goes for elemental Chlorine, Fluorine and Bromine. All of these rip the water apart and create the hypo- oxyacid and the hydroacid of the specie (e.g. Cl~2~ + H~2~O --> HClO + HCl)

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    • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      What if we leave out the electrons, and just add hydrogen ions, aka good old naked protons? Might be tricky mixing them in before they pull free electrons from wherever, but if they’re high enough energy we’re fast enough…

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  • ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Most soda has a pH of like 3, so probably can’t be muchh worse.

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    • icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Turns out solubility of hydrogen is quite low (to be expected) so it’s unlikely enough hydrogen would dissolve to burn a hole in a tongue.

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• wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  As a chemistry teacher who regularly ignites Hydrogen gas, I cannot even imagine how dangerous it would be to ignite a hydrogen belch. That shit POPS.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Actually why it was news; some dude got drunk, belched fireballs at people and burnt the shit out of his esophagus.

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    • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      That’s more like it.

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