Comment on Australia to recognise Palestinians' right 'to a state of their own', PM says
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 11 hours agoI’d argue what is happening in Gaza is very relevent to anybody who believes they benefit from a world system that ‘should’ frown upon neighbours attacking each other. Australians in general i argue fit that bill.
I suppose indigenous rights are more relevant to Australians than whats happening in Gaza, although i’m not sure on that. The fundamental right to live in peace within borders of your community, even if un-recognised, seems to me to be a foundational pillar for indigenous rights to stand upon. In this instance if we don’t stand up against genocide and violations of human rights in Palestine, then it seems hypocritical to stand up for indigenous rights at home.
But the above assumes a faith in an internationalist cause, i think there is a stronger argument, without hypocrisy, if a person determines they have more parochial concerns and values.
I’ve left out the asylum seekers because there is always a very clear motivation to demonise and alienate that group in any society. They are targetted because they can be, and at little to no cost for the attackers. Its bullshit that people don’t see through the carousel of propaganda and lies that wheels around endlessly targetting immigrants. So i suppose its a rights issue, but i think its different from Indigenous rights. Their mix of rights are a result of gaslighting and prejudice. I haven’t explained myself well here, sorry.
pro-Palestinian advocacy really costs Australians nothing, so for most the opportunity to take a selfish position doesn’t exist. It’s free moral high ground with zero trade-offs.
I want to come back to re-read this when i’m in different mental contexts. Its right, but i think it’ll hit different as i consider different actor’s motivations.
Ilandar@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
Perhaps I should redefine what I mean by “relevant” then, because it’s obviously the case that Australians have far less control over the situation in Gaza than they do over the rights of people suffering under their own democratically elected government. Whilst pushing our politicians to recognise Palestinian statehood or end the shipment of military equipment to Israel is not a complete waste of time and is certainly a good thing to do, the reality is that it will not even go close to solving that problem or ending the pain for Palestinian people. Australia can only offer moderate influence here, it cannot actively change anything by itself. Domestically, we have all the power and can absolutely make meaningful change so what’s the excuse? We don’t stand up for these other things, that’s the point, so to frame this as a hypocritical position misses the point entirely.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 hours ago
Gotchya, yeah in terms of control we certainly have more power over the Indigenous rights and Asylum Seekers.
Time for a hot take: (somewhat unrelated)
I actually have come to really credit Dutton for what he did with the boat people issue.
“We don’t comment on on-water matters.”
With that he killed a line of attack used against progressive parties in this country by conservatives.
And suddenly the conversations around asylum seekers arriving by boat couldn’t be a national pinata for the news.
It hasn’t solved any of the fundamental rights violations, but it did take the politics and grand standing way out of it. But the professionals have to carry out their work, but with less fear of a national outrage campaign against their decisions.
I’m not saying it has lead to better delivery of rights, but i am saying he created a situation where the delivery of better rights is more likely. Away from the culture wars and political grandstanding decision making can be clearer.