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mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

you’re using an LLM for the purposes an actual whiteboard would probably be better for.

I mean, you could actually interact with people, yikes. you could have the give and take of ideas and collaboration, but instead, let’s just chew through a shit ton of power and water, we’ve got a spare environment in the closet.

pfft, do you have any idea how silly it all seems from another perspective?

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yes_this_time@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Some people are finding value in LLMs, that doesn’t mean LLMs are great at everything.

Some people have work to do, and this is a tool that helps them do their work.

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- mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  they have no idea if what they’re paying is what it actually costs though, so good luck building tools for the future when the resources are artificially priced.
  
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  - yes_this_time@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I mean, I agree that a lot of money was spent training some of these models - and I personally wouldn’t invest in an ai based company. The economics dont make sense.
    
    However, worst case, self hosted open source models have got pretty good, and I find it unlikely that progress will simply stop. Diminishing returns from scaling data yes, but there will still be optimizations all through the pipeline.
    
    That is to say, LLMs will continue to have utility regardless if Open AI and Anthropic are around long term.
    
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    mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨50⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    
    However, worst case
    
    worst case the self hosted ai still has to be trained on stolen corpus.
    
    worst case the self hosted ai still has ridiculous consumption of resources.
    
    there’s a bunch much much worse cases than your worst case even touches.
    
    you don’t even consider how it’s built on theft at all anymore do you?
    
    fucking ai bros
    
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Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The point of a prototype is collaboration. It’s to get feedback from colleagues and end users.

Previously we’d whiteboard that out, spend a few days writing some code or stitching together a figma prototype to achieve a similar results.

I feel ya on the energy use, but don’t see how this is going to get me sued or isn’t allowing me to collaborate. The prototype code is going to get burned anyway, and now I my coworkers and I can pressure test ideas instantly with higher fidelity than before.

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