Comment on The proletarianization of tech workers

• Not_mikey@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They are petit bourgeoisie, they work for a living but their interests are aligned with capital as they’re hired by the owners to extract as much surplus labor as they can and will often get bonuses tied to how well they do that, they’re the overseer.

  Software developers work and contribute to the company, they are the ones whose surplus labor is being extracted. They may get a larger chunk of the value they create but they don’t get all of it. They are still in class conflict with the owners to get all the value they create. They’re house slaves, treated better but still fundamentally against the owner.

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  • nodsocket@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Would you say that the only people who are not proletariat are those who are “financially independent” in the sense that they don’t need to work for an income?

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    • Not_mikey@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, I’d say that “financially independent” really means your dependent on capitalism, and that dependency will lead you to defend capitalism from any challenges. That is the bourgeois position and puts you against the proletariat. Their are other classes though besides proletariat and bourgeoisie with different relations to capital. Petite bourgeoisie are neither bourgeoisie nor proletariat but there interests align with the bourgeoisie/capital and against the proletariat, but they are not completely dependent on capitalism so they won’t defend it as zealously. There is also the independent worker class who work for themselves outside a corporate structure, eg. An independent farmer, whose interests don’t align with either the bourgeoisie or proletariat.

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• Bye@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Some. But at firms of even modest size, though, a CEO receives ownership of capital, not just salary, as compensation.

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  • nodsocket@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So do plenty of mid level engineers at Google.

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• Shadywack@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Difference in stock options as compensation for executives vs managers or the entire middle management layer is beyond insane. Like exponentially more.

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