Comment on New executive order puts all grants under political control

• squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah it’s too late. All the delusional gun-slinging second-amendment-spoiting idiots can think they can overthrow a government somehow.

  The last chance to stop this was 13th of June last year.

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  • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Gun nuts simply don’t talk that way, let alone believe it. You do not have a cute talking point, you have a fabricated talking point. If we’re going by what the utterly fringe, utterly unserious nuts talk about? I can find fruitcakes spouting any nonsense you like, any topic. Give me a few minutes with a search engine.

    What we can do is defend our families, neighbors and ourselves when ICE comes knocking. The fact that so many of us have guns is a massive deterrent. Notice ICE isn’t raiding places where people are well armed?

    Think the cops and fascists (I repeat myself) are bad now? How do you think they would act if they knew they could kick down any door with no danger to themselves? You might notice how well fucking behaved they are when citizens are openly armed at a protest. Suddenly they just want everything peaceable. Aww, aren’t they sweet?

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I heard that argument so often that the second amendment is there to overthrow tyrannical governments and I heard that from the people claiming that they need guns for that explicit purpose. For work reasons I have quite a bit to do with people from the mountain west and that’s a very common talking point there.

      What we can do is defend our families, neighbors and ourselves when ICE comes knocking.

      That’s seriously even more whack than thinking a bunch of gun nuts could overthrow the government with a “well regulated militia”.

      When you start shooting at ICE, you get another Waco massacre.

      Look at any (and I repeat ANY) other example of a country sliding into fascism. Name even one where owning a gun and “defending” yourself or your family lead to anything but all of them laying dead on the floor.

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    • btaf45@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      When the right wing dictatorship has safely grabbed full power, they are very likely to eventually take everyone’s guns away just because they can. They will suddenly start telling everyone that we have always been at war with East Asia and you better be a team player. And all the conservatives who have been conditioned to chase the Party Line in goose step formation and forfeit their previous principles will fall in line just like they always do. And within a few years 99% of everyone’s guns will be gone except for the regime.

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  • Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    June 13th?

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    • HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think @squaresinger@lemmy.world meant July 13th. Relevant news article

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      • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sorry, yes, by bad. Fixed the typo.

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      • Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ahh, that tracks. Thanks so much.

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