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Taleya@aussie.zone 3 days agoeyyy can we not start going elder protocols?
yeah israels gone fucking insane and it’s very very good at politically and socially leveraging holocaust guilt and its strategic position as a western power base in the middle east. This is not the same as being in control.
Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 3 days ago
Oh sod off with that shit mate.
Israel has it’s grubby fingers on our politicians and media, just as it does in nearly every other western country. This is not some conspiracy, it’s a fact that’s been made heaps obvious to everyone these days.
Anyone pretending Israel does not have a level of control is lying.
johnwicksdog@aussie.zone 18 hours ago
You’re both agreeing on the same thing, but arguing over it’s extent. You both believe that Israel has a large amount of influence outside of its borders, and it uses that influence to enact its will.
Control is more than influence. Control implies they can issue orders, impose binding conditions and have formal decision making authority over another country’s actions. Israel’s influence is softer than that. In practice, perhaps, Israel has a de facto control over other countries. But even then it will be a stretch as that generally implies a puppet state.
I think pro-invasion proponents are looking for reasons to label any criticism as anti-semitic. Using language such as this gives them that reason. I think a stronger alternative is to use the term foreign interference, which is closer to what is actually happening, and buckets it with simaliar cases of which the media has been more vocal. E.g., China and India.