Comment on Meet the AI vegans: They are choosing to abstain from using artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons. Maybe they have a point

• Womble@piefed.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  No I'm a meat eater who is anti-car! I'm more getting at how people have latched on to the energy use of AI models without realising the huge energy usage that goes into their daily lives.

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  • lightsblinken@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    are the two comparable? genuinely asking because i suspect AI usage is an order of magnitude or so more…

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    • Womble@piefed.world ⁨59⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      You're right that there's orders of magnitude difference, but its the driving that's far more! One query to a chatGPT type model uses roughly 1Wh of energy, which is about the same as is released in burning one droplet of gasoline.

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  • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Definitely a good point to raise; thanks for doing so!

    Here’s a fun one - where do you stand on those forced to commute dur to housing prices near inner city work (e.g. I live in near poverty paying a mortgage for a small place near where I work due to poor public transport so I can walk to work - how does this figure into the anti-car vision? Is it an employer issue, a government issue, a personal sacrifice, or something else entirely?)

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    • Womble@piefed.world ⁨57⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Its an urban planning and transport issue essentially. Medium density housing (think 4-6 story blocks) allows enough people to live in an area that it becomes feasible to have trams/light rail serving that area.

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      • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Good to know, I’ll go ask one if the profs in our school of built environment for more info. See if they can offer more insight there.

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