Comment on The 2025 version of "Please consider this environment before printing this email" should be "Please consider this environment before using A.I. to respond to this email"

a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• npdean@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I am a small part of the problem, so I am not a problem.

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  • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    i don’t know what amount of energy and water LLM’s or image generation use, but you vastly overestimate it if you react like this.

    If you don’t have your screen on power save after 15 seconds of non-use, rethink it - 8 minutes of screen time assuming a 30W monitor equals about 1 ChatGPT request, and that’s including the training of the model and the production of the hardware it’s running on.

    If it cost any real amount of money, don’t you think that people would have to pay for that? ChatGPT has 400m users, and only 11m actually pay for it.

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    • _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      an AI center in Texas was using 460 Million gallons of water, so much that residents were told to cut back on showering to accommodate it.

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      • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yeah, it’s stupid that they built it where it’s not supported by the necessary infrastructure. btw, do you know what happens after they use it to cool the servers? it gets placed back into the river, it doesn’t disappear. this situation is an infrastructure issue, not an AI issue.

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  • sourhill@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This post linked elsewhere in the thread was pretty insightful.

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• Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think they’re pointing out the 180-turn in so-called “priorities.” Companies once claimed to want something done for the “sake of the environment,” but now they have no problem using resource-intensive AI without any acknowledgement of how bad it is for the environment.

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  • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Both things (avoiding LLM written mail and the paper printouts) are meaningless greenwashing gestures in comparison to - for example - the additional car use due to “return to office”-bullshit.

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    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s true. I don’t disagree with you, I just think we’re reading this post differently.

      Companies lie about their reasons all the time, especially when they claim they’re doing something for the environment. I interpreted this post as another example pointing out their hypocrisy, not as “this is the one and only thing companies lie about.”

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      • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The basic assumption of the post is that GenAI is particularly energy and water hungry, which is not true. The energy my computer used while commenting under this post, which i can estimate to about 300W since my first comment, equals about 300 requests. It would have been climate friendlier to generate my responses with ChatGPT instead of typing them out.

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