Comment on YSK that Gerrymandering allows politicians to choose their own voters. In many countries, it's illegal. Gerrymandering is common in the United States

• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  As I said elsewhere, if there is only two parties/candidates running for each of these seats and the districts are divided this way then there is no functional difference between Ranked Choice, Approval, Proportional, or First Past The Post. The results would be 100% identical in any of those systems. In this specific situation, the result is “perfect”, as it says. Under different circumstances, it would be less than perfect, but that is not how hypothetical work, my guy.

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  • geissi@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    if there is only two parties/candidates running for each of these seats and the districts are divided this way

    So, suppose these things were not immutable laws of nature, would a better representation the be possible?
    If e.g. the candidates of our rectangle had 5 seats to compete for instead of one?

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    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Your example is literally what is being illustrated. There is some disconnect you are suffering. There are 5 districts with 5 seats and depending on how you divide the districts, fairly or intentionally gerrymandered, you can get a fair outcome or outcomes that heavily favor one party.

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      • geissi@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Your example is literally what is being illustrated.

        The graphic literally illustrates that one of two teams “wins”. In the “perfect” case that is blue.

        here is some disconnect you are suffering. There isn’t only one seat they are competing for.

        The disconnect being that the above example mentions nothing about the red districts getting anything.
        That is an assumption you are making based on some real world system that is not depicted here.
        My comment is based only on what the image shows. I understand that the real world may be different but the real world is not what I am commenting on.

        I dont get why you have a problem with the end result.

        I don’t criticize the result. I just don’t think it’s perfect.

        People here keep telling me the system is bad but it’s the best we have.
        If that is your definition of perfect that I suppose we just have a vastly different understanding of perfection.

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