Yeah in many cases, but that’s not the case for a lot of the world. The Middle East and North Africa especially, as well as remote mountainous areas like tibet that rely on glacier melt as their only sources.
Climate change is listed as one of the main contributors to water scarcity in the Middle East and North Africa. And as we know, capitalism is one of the main drivers of climate change. Water scarcity is a result of capitalism and corporate greed. Until AI companies are no longer able to move into towns and suck up their entire aquifer just to make AI slop, there is not as much of a water scarcity as there is a water hoarding and theft.
There’s no AI databases in tibet, Yemen, Sudan etc. climate change yeah, you could make an argument there but that’s a hard sell because these places were going to run out of water eventually anyways, and we didn’t really know of climate change till well into the industrial revolution, and didn’t fully understand the effects until recently. Hell, you could argue we still don’t, but the image is getting pretty clear.
Don’t get me wrong, fuck AI and everyone involved with it, but saying that it’s all AI and corporations buying water right is incredibly disingenuous, at best.
There’s no AI databases in tibet, Yemen, Sudan etc.
Yes… I know… the point was not that AI is stealing water from the Middle East. The point is that, whether its datacenters in the west, or climate change in the Middle East, profit motive, corporate greed, and theft are the main causes of water scarcity and lack of water collaboration. As is stated more elegantly in the numerous sources I’ve linked - which quantify water scarcity at the hands of corporations.
these places were going to run out of water eventually anyways
Source? This is a massive statement. You think that since humans first settled the Middle East, they were doomed to run out of water? How do even prove or disprove this? Any analysis here is predicated upon a history of capitalism and imperialism.
P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah in many cases, but that’s not the case for a lot of the world. The Middle East and North Africa especially, as well as remote mountainous areas like tibet that rely on glacier melt as their only sources.
Ferrous@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Climate change is listed as one of the main contributors to water scarcity in the Middle East and North Africa. And as we know, capitalism is one of the main drivers of climate change. Water scarcity is a result of capitalism and corporate greed. Until AI companies are no longer able to move into towns and suck up their entire aquifer just to make AI slop, there is not as much of a water scarcity as there is a water hoarding and theft.
r3sustainability.com/corporate-water-usage-the-su…
unu.edu/…/how-bottled-water-industry-masking-glob…
www.worldwildlife.org/threats/water-scarcity
P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s no AI databases in tibet, Yemen, Sudan etc. climate change yeah, you could make an argument there but that’s a hard sell because these places were going to run out of water eventually anyways, and we didn’t really know of climate change till well into the industrial revolution, and didn’t fully understand the effects until recently. Hell, you could argue we still don’t, but the image is getting pretty clear.
Don’t get me wrong, fuck AI and everyone involved with it, but saying that it’s all AI and corporations buying water right is incredibly disingenuous, at best.
Ferrous@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Yes… I know… the point was not that AI is stealing water from the Middle East. The point is that, whether its datacenters in the west, or climate change in the Middle East, profit motive, corporate greed, and theft are the main causes of water scarcity and lack of water collaboration. As is stated more elegantly in the numerous sources I’ve linked - which quantify water scarcity at the hands of corporations.
Source? This is a massive statement. You think that since humans first settled the Middle East, they were doomed to run out of water? How do even prove or disprove this? Any analysis here is predicated upon a history of capitalism and imperialism.