See? You’ve just straight up given up the game, immediately disregarding any pretense that you ever cared about reliable sources or honestly, and just straight up admit that it’s only about politics alliegence. You will believe anything Wikipedia tells you, even if it openly comes from western propaganda outlets like the Victims of Communism Foundation or Radio Free Asia, because they agree with your politics.
You’re just salty that the russian and chinese propaganda edits are thrown out as soon as they pop up lol
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yessir, i do believe that the information on Wikipedia resembles the truth a lot more than anything that comes from lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml or hexbear.net. And you know why? Because Wikipedia gives me sources i can read up and decide myself if that’s bullshit or not, and those sources are not some bizarre substack ramblings or youtube videos with 150 views. And also because Wikipedia leaves politics aside as good as they can - if your perception of reality has anything to with what the world at large has agreed on, but there i lost ya, didn’t i?
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Yessir, i do believe that the information on Wikipedia resembles the truth a lot more than anything that comes from lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml or hexbear.net.
Yes, I do: because it confirms the things you already believed
Because Wikipedia gives me sources i can read up and decide myself if that’s bullshit or not
And do you? Do you read all those books from Anne Applebaum and similar right wing pundits? Do you read all the reports from far right think tanks like Australian Strategic Policy Institute? Do you read claims of not just the publications, but the save individual people, who have consistently repeated every verified lie to come out of the US state department, from WMDS in Iraq to babies in ovens in Gaza? How exactly are you “deciding for yourself” if that’s bullshit?
And also because Wikipedia leaves politics aside as good as they can
They really don’t. Not that it’s even possible to “leave politics aside” when talking about things that are political. Thinking they do is basically admition that you consider your politics “the default”.
if your perception of reality has anything to with what the world at large has agreed on, but there i lost ya, didn’t i?
You really want to commit the argument “it’s true because it agrees with the average political position of westerners?” (because by “the world at large”, you, naturally, where only talking about westerners.)
a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
To all of your points: i look at current behavior.
I do not need Wikipedia to tell me that the US are currently an autocracy, because they behave like it.
Similarly, I do not need Wikipedia to tell me that Russia is currently fighting an war of aggression, just like the last few wars they started, and we all know how the russian soldiers behave when on tour.
I also do not need Wikipedia to tell me that the CCP is messing with their citizens, because they do the same every time it’s 🍉-time on Weibo.
And i didn’t need Wikipedia to tell me to look at the wall of text you posted - which i only squinted at - or to think “i will not read that drivel, i fell for that trap too often already” and to tell you to stop wasting your breath, i’m not debating you, i’m laughing at your impotence lol
nyctre@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
It’s very easy to just spit out rote strawman that don’t resemble anything I actually said, rather than actually engage with what I said.